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Crisis Talks – THE DRESSING ROOM: Unlocked | The Offload

02 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What humorous moments occur in hot yoga classes?

12.181 - 14.325 Tommy Bowe

Cunas, liking the T-shirt.

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14.626 - 20.857 Donncha O'Callaghan

There you go, Tommy. There you go, Cunas. Yeah, I'm a big fan of it. It's from Hairy Baby. So I have a few of them.

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20.877 - 24.324 Tommy Bowe

Oh, he loves the Hairy Baby, don't you? You love the Hairy Baby T-shirt.

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24.885 - 42.774 Donncha O'Callaghan

Do you know why I like this one as well? Look, it's a bit faded. But I wear it going to, I've started doing hot yoga. And yeah, you're just, I think it's the right vibe for kind of hot yoga. Cunas, you know what I mean? But you know who's in there as well? I probably shouldn't be saying this.

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Chapter 2: How do team dynamics affect performance during meetings?

42.814 - 45.358 Donncha O'Callaghan

There's probably kind of non-disclosures.

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45.599 - 47.201 Tommy Bowe

Confidentiality agreement.

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48.784 - 53.511 Donncha O'Callaghan

But I know he won't mind us. Tomás O'Leary's in there as well. Is he? Hello.

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53.491 - 77.693 Donncha O'Callaghan

it's a good crack well sorry it's not a good crack it's very hard but like the class could be nowhere long right and as soon as they do this kind of like meditation at the end and they're like take the time now for yourself I'm there like get me out the door so I can breathe you know what I mean I just I'm cooked you know what I mean I went there but oh Leary's yeah

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77.673 - 88.905 Donncha O'Callaghan

Clary, Clary could be there for a week. He could be like your bunny that has the six hour nap. I would shower, tug out the door and there's Tomás doing a wah, wah, wah. What's the problem?

89.386 - 99.296 Tommy Bowe

I have to say, I love that bit of yoga, though. I love that last bit, the vinyasa or whatever it is. Yogis, get on to us in the comments, please. What's that called?

Chapter 3: What role does honesty play in crisis meetings?

99.616 - 106.684 Tommy Bowe

That's the proper meditation bit. You've done your stretch, you've done it and I pass out. I always am scared, though, I start snoring.

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106.664 - 127.322 Tommy Bowe

that's the problem like I don't know whether I'm in that like perfect like a like flow state kind of like meditative state or whether I've fallen asleep and I kind of do this whole and doing like this snort I don't know I'm like a nana everyone's looking at me going they're all like rolling up their towels

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127.657 - 143.1 Donncha O'Callaghan

maybe that's my problem maybe it's a mindset thing I always kind of have the view I'm going there for the flexibility and the mobility and I need to tie into the head side of it because it's the best bit

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143.08 - 170.067 Tommy Bowe

I don't get that bit I in my head I'm there why would you do that when you're going out the door and the chaos just kicks off you know what I mean you see I can't I can't get in I find it very hard to get into that meditation state and it's only yoga is the yoga is the one that you can and I feel that like the whole build-up of the 55 minutes say is kind of winding you down stretching getting you into that and then all of a sudden then you're in that and it's just lie down and it just

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170.047 - 182.976 Tommy Bowe

yeah I love it do you know what I hate about hot yoga though go on sweating it's embarrassing if there's like a few people around or whatever else and you get an old sweaty back and you're kind of rolling and it sounds like a fart

184.525 - 203.901 Donncha O'Callaghan

I think embrace farting. You know what I mean? Maybe it's an age thing, but it's been the fucking funniest joke since you were eight years of age, even younger. You know what I mean? No matter where it happens, if you're not laughing at a Rudy noise, Ari, like you're at nothing. If I made that noise, I'm loving that. It's...

203.881 - 233.888 Tommy Bowe

well I when you say that right that Lucy my wife obviously went to hot yoga years and years ago back when we were in Wales and I remember she'd only gone once or twice and she went with her sister and she went and there was a fella and I'm not going to say who it was but because we know they won't be happy but no he's one of the actors from Gavin and Stacey the programme right shut the front door yeah shut up it's Barry on the bus I don't want to hear anything else go

Chapter 4: How can team meetings impact player morale?

233.868 - 254.885 Tommy Bowe

So he was doing hot yoga, right? And Lucy came home and her and Danielle were in fits laughing. And I was like, what? And he was there and he was doing hot yoga. And listen, you know yourself, like sometimes you're stretching like that and you're holding it in. He did a fart. And the girls were. And I'll never forget.

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254.985 - 260.579 Tommy Bowe

Anytime I watch Gavin and Stacey and I see them on it, I just think of him farting and that yoga.

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260.659 - 264.769 Donncha O'Callaghan

My nan had a line, what you haven't got in your hand, you can't hold.

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268.495 - 275.067 Tommy Bowe

So if you're in the gym or if you, like, are you, like, obviously, you don't let it, like, you're not farting in there.

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275.427 - 288.951 Donncha O'Callaghan

I'm not actively looking to fart around the place, but I'm just saying, if a Rudy noise does happen, I haven't got the maturity to not bust my ass laughing. Like, it will always make me laugh.

288.931 - 309.235 Donncha O'Callaghan

you know my kids just obsessed with farts like it's so funny do you mean they just love it it's so and I love it too I actually think we all gotta tap back into that area of like you know what I mean just seeking can we make people laugh at a Rudy noise the world is miserable enough let's just embrace a good old give everyone a fart gun and leave us at it

309.62 - 315.207 Tommy Bowe

I tell you what needs a good fart gun every now and a few team meetings, a few heart to heart team meetings.

Chapter 5: What insights can be gained from past team crises?

315.307 - 331.847 Tommy Bowe

I know you're talking about this during the week or last week because we've been in a few. Well, we've been in a few meetings where a few people have farted and it certainly has diffused the atmosphere. It didn't with one person.

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331.827 - 333.149 Donncha O'Callaghan

Yeah, we're going to get into it.

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333.309 - 358.02 Donncha O'Callaghan

We basically were kind of looking at their squad are now meeting up and there probably needs to probably be honest assessments of maybe the autumn and this all going off the back of the Champions Cup as well when Saracens and your old coach Mark McCall gave it to Saracens on a Monday morning and then they go out and put in an unbelievable performance against Toulouse and we just thought it's probably worth addressing those kind of

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358 - 385.934 Donncha O'Callaghan

brutal, honest team meetings and the ones that go well and the ones that don't go so well. So happy to kind of chat through those. But funny you say it, I remember Gert Small, our forwards coach, the big South African, strong, we were all shitless of the man. Big time, big man. Yeah. Farting was again like that. You know what I mean? Like it was currency in our team room, wasn't it? It was.

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386.675 - 387.236 Donncha O'Callaghan

Big time.

Chapter 6: How do different teams handle constructive criticism?

387.256 - 410.774 Donncha O'Callaghan

Great, great fun. He found it the most disrespectful thing of all time. He could not believe fellas fucking. And he eventually it was getting too much for him. And he realized that we just see it as a bit of fun. Right. So he was there like, can I ask in my presence that you don't do that? And we were like, but you're going into something to joke, man. You know what I mean?

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410.794 - 415.108 Donncha O'Callaghan

We were like, are you sure you're all right for losing out on not hearing the Rudy bop?

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416.354 - 420.6 Tommy Bowe

Did you ever room with Hayes? Nah, Hayes. Different level.

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421.08 - 424.424 Donncha O'Callaghan

Man, he's a different level. But... Never smelt.

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Chapter 7: What strategies are effective in leading team discussions?

426.267 - 437.181 Donncha O'Callaghan

They never smelt. Hayes' farts, genuinely, right? They would make, like, honestly, they would make the... It was like he ripped his jeans or his shorts or whatever it was. Never a bang off him.

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437.448 - 460.907 Tommy Bowe

You're probably right. I did room with him. I don't actually remember them smelling, to be fair. I do just remember the noises. But when I couldn't get over, he never farted in front of his wife. What a gentleman. I'm like, how is so much wind in you in this room whenever we're room together? But when you go home, it's like he saved them up for Irish camp.

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460.887 - 470.376 Donncha O'Callaghan

This is brilliant because I probably shouldn't tell the story. It's not mine to tell, but I hope they don't mind. But I remember Tom Hayes telling me one time, like he was the cut from the same cloth.

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Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from the experiences shared?

470.436 - 491.175 Donncha O'Callaghan

But I think at one point that their mom got called into the school because of Tom Hayes is farting. And they were like, sorry, no, Mr. Hayes, but we have to chat about Tom. He's just he's farting too much in class. And I think her line was, you should live with three of them, four of them, whatever is at home. What I'm dealing with.

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492.797 - 496.901 Tommy Bowe

Imagine teacher calling you in for farting too much in class. Oh, so good.

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498.303 - 524.888 Donncha O'Callaghan

But once I cleared Hayes from a gym in Poland, do you remember they used to give us, like, I think it was like a barley soup. And I had this barley soup at lunch. We went up back, had our nap and went in for a gym session in the afternoon. And I fucking stank the place out. And It was the only time I've seen because he's quite relentless. He was there. He had all the doors open. He was there.

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524.908 - 527.175 Donncha O'Callaghan

No more, Galad. No more.

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529.855 - 533.22 Tommy Bowe

It's the barley soup, Hayes. It just doesn't agree with me.

533.24 - 538.147 Donncha O'Callaghan

That's all it kept saying. And then when it was on the menu, because, you know, we were there so long that it went on repeat.

538.167 - 538.868 Tommy Bowe

Oh my God, that place.

538.888 - 542.373 Donncha O'Callaghan

I remember he was there. There's barley soup up there. You're not allowed near it.

542.393 - 545.157 Tommy Bowe

Oh, that place though, Doneca. Oh my God.

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