The Offload
David Humphreys joins the show, Ireland squad named, URC final & more | The Offload EP89
19 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What are the highlights of the last Offload episode of the season?
Hello and welcome to the last offload of the season. Doneca, lots to discuss. You're another part of the world again.
Yes, I'm in Iceland, but I was making myself fully available because we are delighted to be joined by the main man in Irish rugby, the brilliant David Humphrey. He's our teammate, but now with a critical role in making sure the infrastructure is in place for Irish rugby to continue to excel. And we're going to have a great chat with Humphrey as well.
Looking forward to catching up with him, of course.
Chapter 2: How is David Humphreys contributing to Irish rugby's infrastructure?
We're looking forward to tonight's match, the final. Leinster up against the Bulls. A bit of an Ireland selection for the summer tour and have a final bit of crack of the season ahead of our tour next year. Not tour, one and done. Vicar Street, night before Ireland against England. Perfect Father's Day present. Right, I think it's our 99th episode. It's the last episode of the season.
Before we bring on our special guest, Doneca, where the hell are you?
Yeah, apologies, Tommy. It's actually 89. We've ran for 89 weeks solid and it's our last one, you're right. And we, to be fair, tried to keep a bit of standards in terms of being either at home or in the studio. And I slagged RT for doing the podcast from the car and at the very last one, look at me, in the car. I think I have a valid excuse. I'm actually in Iceland. I'm in Iceland.
I'm recording something. I'll tell you more about it when I can a little bit more, but we're recording over here at the moment.
Yeah, so it's... What's the Icelandic rugby team like?
Oh, I don't know, but I could imagine them being fairly hardy, that kind of Viking... mentality around the place.
What's it like there?
Do you know what it's like? Have you been to the Burn in Clare? Where it's all kind of barren and kind of just... It's kind of, no, you know, that kind of, well, here it's all kind of volcanic, kind of, what's it called? The land of fire and ice.
Oh, yeah. Eurovision, the Will Ferrell, isn't that what that song was about? Is there like the geese? That's a nice thing. It's got the like the hot plunge pools or whatever else, doesn't it?
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Chapter 3: What insights does David Humphreys provide about his role as Performance Director?
And if you go around any club. on a Saturday or a Sunday morning and look at the number of minis playing. The game is in good shape. There are huge numbers of people still playing the game. The challenge we've got and the challenge we've always had is as they progress, people play multi-sport and opportunities arise. And you're right, there's concerns around the player welfare aspect of the game.
But those are all issues that we're trying to address ongoing. I don't think there's one solution. But the answer is the IRFU are totally committed to growing the game. We believe there's a huge opportunity now in the women's game to accelerate that. You'll have seen that in our strategic plan.
We want to grow the women's game faster than what we've done in the men's game, which has evolved over the last 30 years. And there's challenges that come with all of that. But what we're absolutely committed to doing, ensuring that we have a thriving game from the very top to the very bottom, knowing that we're going to be competing against other sports, particularly in Ireland.
Yeah, just on that with the women's games, Holmes, just noticing that from my own level, which kind of club up in Cannes, you try to run the girls the same time as the lads minis, but their activities like camogie, gymnastics, stuff like that, that has been in bread for years, takes place the same time. How do you find it's a different workaround for clubs, isn't it?
It's a different challenge around the women's game. Like how do we fix it? Is it central contracts? I know we've got people in the room like Lynn Cantwell to kind of put this all in the head, but where do you see that evolving to the women's game?
Those are the meetings that are going on at the minute, Donna, the women's game and how we grow the game and not just the professional end. We do have some, we have over 30 central contracts in place. We have some of our best players also playing the PWR in England. We're in discussions about what the future of the professional game looks like.
But the bigger discussion that's going on with Lynn Cantwell, Gillian McDarby, Amanda Greensmith from the domestic game, liaising with our heads of rugby development in the provinces with our GMs, how do we make sure, to your point, that we've got a structure and a pathway in place that allows the girls to play the game?
The only way we grow the game is by getting people playing it, getting people falling in love with it, seeing what... not just what it can do from a professional, because if you go too narrow in the professional ambition, what happens is that too many players fall off it and don't play long-term.
A game that is successful, and we all look across the hedge at GAA and the community aspect of those clubs, We've tried to match that. It doesn't quite work. So we've got to look at a way that we are allowing people to, as you've said, combine their gymnastics, combine football, combine soccer, combine camogie, everything.
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Chapter 4: How has the Irish rugby landscape changed in recent years?
to Ulster is that something you kind of encouraged you want to see say like a Frawley for instance you know he's been third fourth fifth choice at Leinster he's always wanted to play 10 like is it important to see our best players playing week in week out
It is, and probably in the course of the last eight, if you'd asked me this when I'd first come into the role or before I came into the role, my answer would have been different in that having experienced Gloucester and professional rugby there, one of the questions was, what makes the Irish provinces different to lots of the club teams around the world, particularly in England?
And my answer was always, it's the very strong sense of identity. It's the connection. We all grew up, I grew up wanting to wear an Ulster jersey, Danica grew up wanting to wear a Munster jersey, Tommy an Ulster jersey. That connection and that identity was a huge part of what the provinces were through that very successful period in the early 2000s.
Now, being in this role for 18 months, I still absolutely believe that identity is an important part and we want our young people coming through, our young boys and girls coming through the system, aspiring to play for their problems. But, and it's a big putt, we also need
At some stage, because of the imbalance in the number of players that are coming through the Leinster system, we do need our best players playing. And that has been a conversation that we will never, ever move a player that doesn't want to be moved. So we will never go to a player and say, I don't know, you've got a choice. Ireland are going to offer you a contract, but the choice is this.
You can't play a Munster anymore. We're going to move you to Munster, Munster or Connacht. That will not be the case because I want players to have this brilliant experience when you're a professional sportsman.
Again, to go back to Brendan McCollum's point, he said, it's not until you get to our, I'll not clash you in the same age bracket as I am, but not until you retire, look at your stomach is nearly there, Tommy. When you get to our stage, you look back and you go, do you know what? My professional sporting career were the best days of my life. I loved so much of it with what I enjoyed.
His view was, we've got to give them that experience in the moment. For the 10 weeks of an Ashes series, it's got to be the best time they've played cricket. For me, that's the same.
I want our players in our Irish provincial system having a brilliant opportunity, being tested, being pushed, being coached hard, but they can walk away from the Irish system saying, I was given the best opportunity I could to be a professional rugby player. So we will never move players against their will.
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Chapter 5: What strategies are being implemented to develop youth rugby in Ireland?
In terms of just this new championship that we're going into as well, the rugby season, it's so freaking long, isn't it?
Do you ever get a break? Come on. Global calendar. When are we going to fix the global calendar, Holmes? Honestly, we want to go on holidays. This man's made for a sun lounger.
I know you boys, particularly Donika, enjoy these holidays. But you do forget that not long ago, going into this period of the season, we were going on a six-week tour. So the length of season, the season itself in the calendar isn't any longer. But what's different is that when you used to finish in May time, you had a couple of weeks off and then you had a bit of a pre-season, you went on tour.
And then you had another pre-season. You are right. The global calendar is another topic that we're all discussing all the time. How can we make it better to make the offering from a fan engagement point of view, from a commercial point of view? And I do think, Tommy, longer term, the Nations Championship is the right way to go about it. So now we've got a real meaningful competition.
We're playing all six of our other tier one level unions in this calendar year and again in 2028 and 2030. And then a finals weekend, which will determine a winner between a northern and southern hemisphere throughout the competition. So I do think it's a really important competition. I do think when we get five years down the line, we'll see it as a valuable addition to the calendar.
But I absolutely agree with you. We have to do some work around how we rebalance the calendar to make sure that it works for players, for administrators, for sponsors, for TV, and most importantly, for our spectators and fans.
You're here to that. Pleasure.
Yeah, we could chat all day. Like, honestly, we haven't even scratched the surface on some of it. We could have chatted sevens, AIL, you know what I mean? Looking into the under 20s. But the system's better for having brilliant people in it. And that's you, the likes of Lane Guy, used to be all the brilliant people that we were lucky to talk out with as well.
You know what you stand for in terms of morals and values and have you in there, man. It fills my heart when I hear you chatting about it.
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