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The Opinions

In the Epstein Saga, Trump Is His Own Worst Enemy

15 Nov 2025

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The release of thousands of pages of emails from Jeffrey Epstein has cast a spotlight back on President Trump and his relationship with Epstein. This week, the Opinion national politics writer Michelle Cottle and the columnists Jamelle Bouie and David French argue that MAGA’s engagement with figures like Epstein and the prominent white nationalist Nick Fuentes is causing cracks on the political right and gradual losses for Trump’s base. But will these incremental steps away from Trump eventually look more like a stampede?Thoughts? Email us at [email protected].

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0.537 - 16.762 Dan Barry

I'm Dan Barry, and I'm a long-time reporter with The New York Times. I've been here for 30 years and I've seen a lot of things change. I was here before there was a website. But one thing hasn't changed at all, and that's the mission of the New York Times. To follow the facts wherever they lead.

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17.103 - 30.797 Dan Barry

And if that means publishing something a government or a leader or a celebrity doesn't want aired, that's not our concern. If you believe in the importance of fact-driven reporting, you can support it by becoming a New York Times subscriber.

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32.887 - 43.352 Unknown

This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times opinion. You've heard the news. Here's what to make of it.

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50.15 - 62.811 Michelle Cottle

I'm Michelle Cottle. I cover national politics for Times Opinion. And I'm back this week with my usual partners in crime, the fabulous columnists, Jamel Bowie and David French. Guys, how you doing?

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62.932 - 63.613 David French

Doing well, Michelle.

63.853 - 70.564 Michelle Cottle

Doing okay. That's not very convincing, Jamel. Why only okay? Do I want to know? Or are we going to come back to that?

70.584 - 73.489 Jamelle Bouie

I'm just tired of being in hotel rooms, as viewers may have noticed.

73.83 - 73.93

Yeah.

74.737 - 90.643 Michelle Cottle

You know, you're the hardest working man in opinion. This week, I feel that we need to dig in once again to the Epstein files. 23,000 of them. I assume that both of you have read them all, every single word?

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