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The Oprah Podcast

Oprah and Jacinda Ardern: A Different Kind of Power

03 Jun 2025

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Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@Oprah PRIME MINISTER is in theaters June 13, with special AMC preview screenings featuring a live Q&A with Rt. Honorable Dame Jacinda Ardern on June 8. To Purchase A Different Kind of Power: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/744301/a-different-kind-of-power-by-jacinda-ardern/ The Right Honorable Dame Jacinda Ardern, former prime minister of New Zealand, joins The Oprah Podcast to discuss her new memoir, A Different Kind of Power which is available on June 3rd, 2025 . At age 37, Jacinda Ardern made history as the youngest female head of state in the entire world. Jacinda tells Oprah why, in an unprecedented moment for a world leader, she announced she would be using kindness as her guiding principle as prime minister of New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern also talks to Oprah about what it was like finding out she was pregnant on the eve of her election in 2017. Oprah asks the former prime minister about her international headline-making moments including taking her baby to the floor of the United Nations, leading New Zealand through the worst mass shooting in the country’s history and her quick yet widely criticized response to the COVID pandemic as well as her decision to resign. Jacinda Ardern also shares home video of personal and political moments of her time in office from the new documentary Prime Minister which premieres in theaters on June 13, 2025. Thank you to our presenting partner Lilly. Lilly’s Zepbound® (tirzepatide). Advertisement Disclaimer: Please see Indications and Safety Summary with Warnings for Zepbound® (tirzepatide) at zepbound.lilly.com/risk Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: https://www.instagram.com/oprah/ https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/ Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.391 - 25.262 Oprah Winfrey

This episode of the Oprah Podcast is presented by Lilly. Well, hey there. Glad you're here with me on the Oprah Podcast. My guest today is the former Prime Minister of New Zealand, the Right Honourable Dame Jacinda Ardern. And when she was only 37 years old, she made history as the youngest female head of state in the entire world. That means on the planet Earth.

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25.622 - 30.866 Oprah Winfrey

But what truly set her apart was her mission to lead with kindness.

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31.266 - 38.935 Jacinda Ardern

If I could distill it down into one concept that we are pursuing in New Zealand, it is simple and it is this. Kindness.

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39.435 - 61.374 Oprah Winfrey

Her first memoir is now available and it's called A Different Kind of Power. And I highly recommend it for anybody who's thinking about leadership in your own life or leadership. been through challenging times or just living and being able to live at the utmost best, even in the crises of your life.

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61.834 - 74.88 Oprah Winfrey

It's a different kind of power and being able to tap into that power is what this book is all about. And also the new documentary, Prime Minister, which is so revelatory and really a thrill to watch.

75.18 - 80.263 Jacinda Ardern

How do we shine a light on the humanity that I know is still there and amongst everything else?

80.953 - 102.051 Oprah Winfrey

The documentary will be released exclusively in theaters on June 13th, just a week from now as we're speaking. Jacinda Ardern, welcome. Thank you. What a pleasure to be here. It is such an honor to have you here. Oh, the treat is all mine. Thank you. Well, I have to tell you, I had the... I don't even know what you call it, my first experience in New Zealand.

102.692 - 123.245 Oprah Winfrey

I was filming a movie called Wrinkle in Time and we shot it in New Zealand and I wanted to go just because it was being filmed in New Zealand. And I have never experienced a world like that. It's like you're driving along and you turn a corner and you're like... Oh my gosh. Everything is breathtaking.

123.385 - 128.308 Jacinda Ardern

It is. It is genuinely a breathtaking place. And with beautiful people too.

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