Is Football Losing Its Way? Sean Dyche on Forest & The Biggest Modern Game Problems | Fan Debate

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How has the role of a football manager changed in the modern game?

Sean Dyche 0:00
You can't handle the fact that there's gonna be loads of school degree. sticks, f ⁇ s, it's just the way it is. A lot of my players will believe the person in the stand would now believe the manager. Their agent will ring and say, well social media said they're doing really well. You'd be like, really?
Unknown 0:13
Arsenal I think found a bit of a gap in the market in the last couple of years. Yeah they crossed it and edited it in. To be fair. You're missing a bit. Yeah but that's the master part of it is harassing the goalkeeper and best look clotheslining in. What's the most woke thing about football now?
Sean Dyche 0:27
Where do you want me to start? We were gonna get a place in Europe, I think. Do you remember the Fair Play? I went over there. I said, right, go and start smashing people. I said, I don't have a plan.
Jamie Carragher 0:41
Hello and welcome back to the fan debate brought to you by Sky Bet. I'm pleased to welcome back Sean Dyche onto the sofa as well as our loyal fans. So uh how are we all enjoying the international break?
Unknown 0:52
Loving
Jamie Carragher 0:53
it.
Unknown 0:54
Very good. United don't play its class. Yeah.
Jamie Carragher 0:56
Yeah, yeah, good. Yeah. What are we thinking about this sort of uh three week rather than the two week? I think should
Unknown 1:02
be completely abolished the international breaks.
Jamie Carragher 1:04
But do you understand why they've done it that way? Yeah, but it was worse when it was
Unknown 1:06
like September than two and then two laptops,
Jamie Carragher 1:10
I think. We've we've got five weeks of international football basically rather than six weeks that we had. for whatever it was the last fifteen years or so, so uh we don't mind it. Uh I've always
Sean Dyche 1:21
found out it was when I was working, is you get three weekends away.
Jamie Carragher 1:24
A lot of these days Yeah, yeah. Like a little little break in the sun. Uh well have you had a little break in the sun on this international break?
Sean Dyche 1:31
Uh no, not this one. Not this one. I've got plenty of breaks in the sun exit when working.
Jamie Carragher 1:37
Uh right, let's crack on. Uh Sean, this is episode we're going to be talking about you, the the role of the manager. Uh how has that changed since you first started to sort of when you were in your last job?
Sean Dyche 1:52
Well I think well my very first job at Watford, um, and and Burnley and Everton I suppose, only forest slightly changed was this idea you're a manager. You know, not a coach, you know, nowadays the biggest the biggest it's not really a debate anymore. I think I think people are aware now, fans are aware, that certain clubs have a a head coach and certain clubs have a manager. I've always been more the manager style of manager, if you like, or manager coach. I can coach, obviously, I've got my licenses, but I've always thought the coaches coach, you know, as I got longer in the tooth in in management. And management now. in old school money, if you like, is so dominated with the amount of workload and media and all that sort of stuff, um, that it that it's harder, I think, to coach all the time.
Sean Dyche 2:33
But then other clubs obviously have a a head coach who really runs the team. You know, it still does the media, but don't really get involved in the running of the club. It's just purely the team. Um so yeah, I think that's how it's developing. Um and different clubs have still got different styles. I think the future of it will be more like the new style, if you like. I think it'll become Um talking future wise, I think it's gonna become very Americanized personally. Not just 'cause of the amount of American owners. I think you're gonna have like a GM, as they call it, general manager, and then a coach. The GM will be like a manager, but kind of behind the scenes management, and then the coach will do the press and the teams and all that sort of stuff.
Sean Dyche 3:08
A bit like a director of all, but a different version of that, I think. Did you
Jamie Carragher 3:12
when you mention that and I said I don't know everything about American sports, but when you're thinking about set pieces coaches coming in now, do do you think you could almost get to a stage? I definitely want to throw in
Sean Dyche 3:21
coach if we get another job and
Jamie Carragher 3:22
definitely coach. Uh but you're almost like a coach for almost every area of the team.
Sean Dyche 3:28
Yeah, I mean, uh Big Sam, to be fair, brought that over.

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