PEL Presents PvI#124: Navel Evaluation (Our Season 5 Finale)

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What is the opening premise of the season‑5 finale and who are the hosts?

Mark Linsenmayer 0:04
This is philosophy versus improv, where two sages try to teach each other a thing or two, and maybe you the audience get something out of it as well. That's right. This is Mark Linzenmeyer. Finishing up our fifth season of as the philosophy guide for the podcast.
Mary Hines 0:22
And me, Mary Hines here representing the improvisation. It's so wild to me. We've already done a whole season. When did that happen?
Mark Linsenmayer 0:33
Throughout the school year I decided you want a literal you want a literal answer?
Mary Hines 0:38
Not really.
Mark Linsenmayer 0:40
I
Mary Hines 0:40
don't know. Sure, I want any kind of the first answer that that comes to your mind. It's just wild to me. I don't know. I was looking back at the episodes and I was like, holy shit. We've had a lot of great conversations with a wide swath of thinkers, feelers, talkers, doers.
Mark Linsenmayer 0:58
Yes, we sure have. And I'll I'll reiterate our strategy going forward, which is that Jenny Hansen will be joining us as sort of a official guest host, but not in place of me, in addition to me. So I probably won't bother to redo the intro of two sages. I'll just leave it there 'cause who cares? But we'll have to add her to the website. It only took me six months to add you to the website, so
Mary Hines 1:26
Let's see what let's let's keep the experiment rolling. I'll
Mark Linsenmayer 1:29
be a little faster.
Mary Hines 1:30
No, I'm very excited. So I'm I'm curious, how did you come to the conclusion you're like, oh, let's get Jenny in here.
Mark Linsenmayer 1:41
Well, the two things. Yeah, so that that and then the idea, which is a tentative idea at this at this point, but to actually through the season, not on every episode, but at least the ones with you, me and Jenny, to read a chapter of the Martha Neusbaum book, The Therapy of Desire, which goes through ancient stoicism, skepticism.
Mary Hines 2:03
Hell yeah.
Mark Linsenmayer 2:04
Epicureanism. And Aristotle and some other things to
Mary Hines 2:10
Hell yeah.
Mark Linsenmayer 2:10
Yes. So did you look at the intro to that yet or something?
Mary Hines 2:14
No, I haven't yet. Oh tell me again, what's what's the I've been so That's o
Mark Linsenmayer 2:19
that's okay. I'll I'll just I'll busy I am
Mary Hines 2:21
but it's
Mark Linsenmayer 2:22
I explain it to the audience. So I looked at the
Mary Hines 2:25
What's the title of the book again, Mark?
Mark Linsenmayer 2:26
The Therapy of Desire.
Mary Hines 2:29
It sounds vaguely familiar.
Mark Linsenmayer 2:31
Yes. We've discussed it a little bit. So that and the Jenny decision. I feel like I have been coasting It's Jenny decision. From even before you joined That's
Mary Hines 2:42
like some kind of political accord, the the Jenny decision. You know, it sounds like some kind of like NATO secret summit in like the bowels of Camp David. Sorry, keep going. I'm just it's just my improv brain improvising.
Mark Linsenmayer 2:53
This is this is right. No taking turns. Uh the the initial You're not even aware of that. But it's it's in the d in the description on the website. Uh and but that really only persisted for about the first episode that I had with uh with Bill, where oh no, I took it off the website where if you listen to to to episode one, we're literally interrupting each other. I w literally making non sequiturs to uh you know, that he's teaching me the the the the improv and I'm teaching him the philosophy and I just wanted to create a chaotic space and that kind of thing I think could not persist maybe past that first discussion. Maybe.

Why are Mark and Mary bringing Jenny Hansen on as a guest host?

Mark Linsenmayer 3:34
that of course, you know, you fall into patterns, but it's, you know, just uh so after after a while, even though I entered that like, okay, what what would if I was teaching somebody from scratch, what would I come up with as a syllabus? Uh, you know, I've done long-term tutoring things with a few people. Usually that's a matter of if we work through text. Well, if we're not working through text, what are the sort of lessons? What are the basic concepts that I'm trying to put out? And I had that for a while. And then at some point in the four years, I was just like, you know what? I'll I'll just improvise the philosophy, just like I'm improvising the improv. And so I stopped coming up with things and I but I would still like try to have some ideas in my mind and I really like going into today, other than this was gonna be our year end thing, if I had a a a topic thought of for last week when we were when I thought we were supposed to do this, I don't remember it now.

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