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The Pomp And Joe Show

12PM - Steelers hire Adam Henry as WR coach, Jim Schwartz wants out of Cleveland; The Limitless Express - Rust suspended three games, Bubba Ventrone interview

28 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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My heart is full, my focus is Singler, and it's time to bring another championship back to this great city. With that, I just want to make sure that when we do get that trophy, you know, the seventh trophy in the case, we'll start that victory parade at 1137 Greenfoot Avenue. Incredible. And very authentic. Did he win you over yesterday? That's the question.

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That part of it for me was so honest and real. I was like, oh, my God. I mean, how can you look at this and think anything but this is amazing? But then a little bit of reality sets in with, wait a second, are they bringing back Aaron Rodgers? We just had Mark Caballi say that he thinks it's close to a lock in his opinion. He didn't say it was hard and fast information.

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And by the end of it, it was like confirmed what I thought right when they made the hire, Bob, is that they just hired Mike Tomlin to continue what they've been doing. Art doesn't think this has been that bad. Well, he's not happy that they get bombarded in the playoffs. I know that. He doesn't want that to happen.

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Sure, but he said at his news conference after Tomlin, we're in contention every year. And my answer to that would be contention for what? Yeah, the contention is you want to get into the playoffs because before you can lose a game, you have to get there. So I get that. But, yeah, when you get there, you can't do what they've done. And that's where Mike McCarthy comes into play for two reasons.

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Number one, they believe his offensive approach will be successful here. It'll help them get over that hump. And then long-term, he can develop whoever is the guy who will succeed Aaron Rodgers, whether it's this year or next year. But it has to be at some point because – He ain't going to be doing this for a long time. No, and I'm very curious. We're very curious to hear, did he win you over?

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I felt going in that he was going to win that news conference, that the vibe would change, especially if he mentioned Will Howard, and he did quite prominently, and also just pulling on the heartstrings. But I listened to the PM guys, and their callers afterward were basically in the same spot. They did not like this and felt even worse afterwards.

Chapter 2: Did Mike McCarthy win over the fans during his news conference?

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I love it. Yes. What do you got? So anyway, initially... I hated the hire. Like, absolutely hated it. Wanted one of the Rams guys, but as the hiring cycle's been going on, I think the NFL's telling us what it feels about these Rams guys. Shula, maybe not as impressive, and then Sheilhaus, maybe not as ready with the experience.

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So, I've been starting to come around on this, and I think, and Kaboom was there, but maybe he'd be able to answer, but With the potential of Andy Weidel leaving, and you know Tomlin and Weidel were the football guys, do you think they went this route with McCarthy being with all of his experience?

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Because Ben said it last night, him and Charlie, when Tomlin got hired, he came into perfect infrastructure. The assistants were there, the players were there, the quarterback was there. This team doesn't have nearly any of that. Yeah, they're going to say Rodgers, but we all know that's going to be short-term anyway. So I'm starting to come around on this.

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You know, look at the other hires, like who, who else like excites you? Maybe mentor, maybe, uh, maybe happily, but those seem like they were predetermined before they even accepted their job. You know, that's good. You think that way. I don't know. All I know is that I thought those two guys were going to get jobs.

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Now it looks like even though they're still too open, they're not going to be those people. Maybe they're just not ready. I mean, Shula had a lot of people in his corner thinking he was going to be the guy just because I think more so than anything else, the Steelers have always gone in that direction. It's always been three hires, young up-and-coming coordinators, defensive-minded.

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And then you can go from there. They've changed course, and I think with good reason to. They need more offense in what they're trying to do. When you get six points in a playoff game, that's no good. Anytime you're in a position where you have to outscore someone, you should be able to do it. And if you can't, you're in a big problem situation.

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I like Mike McCarthy and what his brand is, which is an offensive brand. I think they need an infusion of good offensive talent and thought process. Appreciate the call. Jerry Dulac in his chat this week seems to agree with you, Bob, about the answer from McCarthy on Aaron Rodgers. Somebody says, we know McCarthy wants AR back.

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And Dulac says, I'm not saying he doesn't want him back, but what did you expect him to say in that situation? So when Benzie asked him, you know, in your best case scenario, is Aaron here? And Mike said, definitely. So Dulac is with you, Bob. I just wanted you to know that. Well, it's just my interpretation of what he said and how he said it. That's all.

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It still may be Rodgers coming back for one more year. I'm not going to rule that out altogether. I just think they need to, as I said, at some point find their next plan. It has to move forward from him, whether that's this year or next.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Adam Henry's hiring as WR coach for the Steelers?

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You spend 75% of your games in sub-package football. Sub-package football. That's all it is. They had two down linemen on their linemen in passing situations a lot of the time. If Larry Richard's up there saying, and now here are your Pittsburgh Steelers, he introduces... three defensive linemen versus four linebackers, who cares? It doesn't really matter, does it?

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It's a matter of what you're doing to put pressure on the ball. I mean, Javon Hargrave looked pretty good in both, didn't he? He went to Philly and looked better, but he looked pretty good here. You can do both if you can play. Right. So, I mean, that's a name I would love to see. It may never happen. I don't know what kind of relationship he has with Schwartz, but...

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You know, he's been around for a long time and he's been a head coach. He's got a lot of experience. If we're looking for experience in somebody who's done it, and again, the motivational factor of doing it against Cleveland twice a year. Well, Bob, I would hope he would be motivated 1,000% regardless, but you might be right about that. Well, doesn't that add a little bit?

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He would have the knowledge of Cleveland for sure. He would have a lot of things that I think would make him an attractive hire. But most of all, he's a very good coach. That's it. That's it. Fan Twitter brought to you by South Hills Kia in Peters Township. Visit them at SouthHillsKia.net. The fan text line brought to you by Edgar Snyder & Associates, a personal injury law firm.

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Where they always say there's never a fee unless we get money for you. And Bob, it's 1227. Time to call Gina G. Impiccio of Remax Select Realty if you're looking to buy or sell a home. Limits, you're at an F plus on the hire. If I told you that Schwartz and Sheilhas were the coordinators, what would the letter grade be? I'd move up to a B. Wow. Did you hear that, Bob?

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I would move up to a B because I think that... Schwartz is that good of a defensive coordinator where he can legitimately... Look what he did with the Browns. I know they're talented, but they won five games this year. It's not because of that offense that they won five games this year. I give Schwartz credit for at least four.

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of the five because of the way that he was able to construct and run that defense. And Chilhouse, I still think, could be a coach-in-waiting type. Now, I don't think he would end up getting the job somebody else would hire him before the Steelers would, but it would definitely intrigue me a lot more than what they have now, yeah. Bob, would those be your two preferred choices?

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Well, yes, except I don't think – because Mike McCarthy has such a control of the offense, I don't know what Sheilhaus – I mean, he can design things. They could utilize it. I'd like to see him call plays, too, if he's on the hot track. Maybe he would start to get a little bit of that at some point. Maybe not in the first year, but maybe down the road. Not in the first year, yeah.

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He'd be an apprentice. He's young enough where you could bring him in on that. And I would – yeah, I'd like that. But I don't know if that's going to happen. I think there's more chance that maybe Schwartz – Although I got to tell you, these other teams could use Schwartz. He's going to have no shortage of people trying to get him, I bet. Man, I'll say. All right.

Chapter 4: How is Jim Schwartz reacting to not being hired as the Browns' head coach?

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