Chris Hoke on the Dolphins, Steelers run defense with and without Harmon

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We are back with more of the Pomp and Joe show, 11.07 in the morning. You know what that means. On a Thursday at 11.07, we go from one champion to another. Tyler Kennedy has just left the building. Chris Hoke is about to enter the building. Not literally because he's on the phone today, but HokeyBro76, first congratulations to your son Lincoln on all the accolades he has received. I'm sure you're a very proud father and you should be. I'm super proud, Paul. Thank you. And we did a little segment on Lincoln on Sunday in the postgame show about him winning that Bill Fralick trophy for the most outstanding lineman in the whip fuel.

What are Chris Hoke's thoughts on the Ravens' controversial calls?

And then today's the big 56 conference, all-conference banquet or luncheon. So I'm out here in Monroeville in the parking lot talking to you guys. And as soon as we're done, I'm walking right in to enjoy that with my son. Well, good for you. It's well-deserved, and Lincoln's a really good kid. You guys have done a wonder. Your late wife, Jamie, would be so proud, and I'm sure she's looking down, too. 100%. She would. Let's talk about the job at hand. First of all, your thoughts about last week. We haven't had a chance to talk to you about it, and this is a team that won in Baltimore, a very big win for them, 27-22. I want to start with the one topic that we all talk about, and we talked about it after the game, you and I on our post-game show,
But what is a catch? It never seemed to be more convoluted than it has been. It seems like such a simple question, but what is a catch? And I say that from both sides of it because we saw Jesse James get a touchdown call back, and we see this on Isaiah Likely. So what, in your mind, Chris, is a catch? To me, I think, in my opinion, and I know Steel Nation is going to like this, but I thought that was a catch because I think of it as in reverse, and that was Washington or that was Friar Moose. And that happened, all the Steel Nation would be up in arms thinking that was a catch. So if it happened to your team for the good, you're happy. If it didn't, you're upset. And I believe that, you know, there he had the ball.
He caught it. One, two. I mean, how long do you want to go through? I guess you almost had that third step down. I thought there were some tough things that went against the Ravens in this game. And that really impacted their chances to win. Yeah, and the thing about it was... I always thought that in the end zone, it's a different set of rules. Three steps in the middle of the field or whatever, that's fine. But when you get to the end zone, since we put so much emphasis on the ball crossing the goal line, I think ultimately, I don't want to belabor this, Joe Starkey, because it's been one of those things we'll talk about. I'm sure Mike Tomlin's on the competition committee. This will be addressed again.
Maybe they're going to make a tweak to the rule as well because it's very difficult. Aside from that, though... The Steelers, even though they won, they have some things to clean up. Obviously, you cannot allow that many rushing yards, and you cannot get as few rushing yards as they got in that game. They averaged just two yards a carry, and while they won it, fine. They've got to change those two sides of those equations, don't they? Absolutely. Listen, I'm a big believer that if you want to win in late December, January, into the playoffs... you got to be able to run the football and stop the run. And those are exactly the opposite of what the Steelers did on Sunday. They still got to win. Right now, when I'm looking at this team, Pop, I'm looking at a team that is heavily dependent upon Aaron Rodgers.
If Aaron Rodgers looked like he looked on Sunday where he was able to move freely, where he looked young and, and, and Sprite, then yeah, I see them win despite being able to run the football. But, You know, with him being 42 years old, I don't know if you can rely on his ability to come and bring it every single game like he did. I mean, he was getting out of the pocket. He was throwing the ball on the run.

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