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The Pomp And Joe Show

Mike Tomlin is likely not having a goodbye presser like Cowher and Noll

16 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the chances of Cam Heyward retiring this offseason?

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percent chance cam surprises us and calls it quits this offseason i think that's legit i think that's uh fifty percent either way could happen i mean that has to solely be a mike tomlin thing because hayward had another good year great yeah he's he's closely aligned with mike tomlin but if this new coach is going to look at the roster and Say, hey, we got to get younger.

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I think that's on the table. You got to let the new guy come in and coach the players he wants to coach. And we just don't know how that new coach feels about any of these guys, to be honest with you.

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34.793 - 44.725 Ray Fittipaldo

That's legit, says Ray Fittipaldo, of the idea that Cam Hayward could be done. That's how I heard that. Did you, Donnie? I mean, you say 50-50, it's a coin flip.

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45.426 - 74.389 Donnie

Yeah. What do you make of that? It's yes or no. It's not I'm leaning one way, I'm leaning the other. I mean, I feel the exact way I felt 15 minutes ago when I immediately – responded with that has to be a Mike Tomlin thing. Cam Hayward was a second-team All-Pro this season. It didn't show up in terms of sacks, so I think people are quick to say, like, oh, Cam had an overrated season.

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74.409 - 79.597 Donnie

He wasn't very good. No, you ask pretty much anybody. I'm not saying me in this.

Chapter 2: How does the new coach impact Cam Heyward's future?

79.658 - 91.93 Donnie

I'm saying the guys that crack down on film across the league, they will tell you that Cam Hayward had a great season. No doubt. Continues to just play great football.

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92.23 - 102.921 Ray Fittipaldo

I mean, the fact of the matter is he's going to be 37 before next year starts, too. And sometimes guys do surprise us, leave on a high note, that type of thing. But there's millions of reasons for him to stay.

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102.901 - 106.29 Donnie

Sure, I think he could do that. He's also the longest tenured.

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106.35 - 109.598 Ray Fittipaldo

Look what Tomlin just did. Tomlin just surprised us, right?

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109.618 - 131.669 Donnie

Yeah, I mean, Cam is also the longest tenured guy, so he played on Mike's defense longer than anybody else. More games than almost anybody in Steelers history. But I also believe like, you know, part of him, if he does decide it would have a lot to do with Mike Tomlin not being the coach anymore.

131.689 - 154.543 Ray Fittipaldo

Yeah. Oh, no doubt. And I also think, I think anytime you get to be 37 years old in any sport, everything's on the table, no matter what kind of year you had. And also every pro athlete I've talked to who, well, every, almost every, They knew it was time when they didn't want to do the off-season stuff anymore. You know what I mean?

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They knew it was time when after two weeks of battering your body in a football season, you weren't already gung-ho to get back to it. And who knows with Cam and all he's been through and all those games that you mentioned. I guess I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be shocked. I just didn't expect to hear 50-50. But Donnie...

178.518 - 202.039 Ray Fittipaldo

There's something else you and I broached during the brief intermission there. I opened the show by saying something just feels weird about the whole Tomlin thing. It does. With Tomlin telling the team it was football and Art telling the team it was family and the suddenness of it all. I don't know. I just have ideas swirling in my mind and I throw onto that.

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I throw onto that little fire of thought that he's not going to say goodbye. Ray just said he's not doing any kind of parting news conference or parting really, I guess, of any sort with Pittsburgh.

Chapter 3: What does Cam Heyward's All-Pro status mean for his career?

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And he's not doing it. And that strikes me as strange that he said, I'm gone 16 hours after the final gun and is never going to be seen again until some reunion years from now. There's no goodbye to Pittsburgh. That just seems odd.

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281.401 - 306.229 Donnie

It does. I think it's very bizarre. Not just a little bit odd. I think it is. Very, very odd because people's quick rebuttal to that will be, well, he told you he hates the media. He hates the local media. The media and the fans pushed him out. I'm still waiting for the first head coach of anything that has ever liked the media.

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307.031 - 335.785 Donnie

It's not exactly him going into foreign waters to not be a fan of the media. Bill Cowher, Chuck Knoll, you think those guys love the media? No, they didn't. Any coach that has ever been in the National Football League has disliked the media. So that can't be the reason. And if it is, it's a pretty soft one. I'll just be blunt. I think it's very soft if that is the reason.

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336.706 - 355.894 Donnie

I'm going to hope it's something else because it is very weird that even though we got departures from Chuck Knoll after 20-plus seasons, we got a departure from Bill Cowher and that lovely sweater that he wore, if you recall, Joe, on his resignation day, the Bill Cowher sweater that he wore. Yeah, yeah.

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356.65 - 385.377 Donnie

We're not going to get one from Mike Tomlin who has, to the national media's admiration, he has the best soundbite in football. You know, we've already seen ESPN and, you know, other outlets post, oh, here's 90 seconds of the best Tomlinisms. You know, this guy was the best dude behind a mic. We're not going to get one final, you know, press conference with him, saying goodbye as Steelers coach.

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Somebody that's been a coach that long, yeah, you're not going to get that from somebody who's been a coach for three years. Somebody who's been a coach for almost 20, you do.

395.209 - 417.516 Ray Fittipaldo

And really, it probably happened the other day when Art came out and talked. That's how Cowers went. I fully anticipated that. I thought Tomlin would be... You put a happy face on everything at the end. There's no happy face here at the end. I'm sorry. I don't know what's happening here, but there's no happy face. There was a statement released by Tomlin. That was it.

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And then as far as like what you said, yeah, of course, everybody hates the media, the fans and the players and the coaches, right?

Chapter 4: Why is Mike Tomlin's departure from tradition significant?

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Everybody does. But he knows, we know, everybody knows that these news conferences, whether it's after a game or the weekly news conference or a farewell news conference, isn't about the media. The media is a conduit for the fans. You're saying goodbye to the fans there. Now, maybe what happened this season helped to push him out the door.

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449.627 - 474.145 Ray Fittipaldo

Maybe what Jocena Anderson says is true, that he felt underappreciated for what he thinks he was accomplishing here. And what he got for that was fire Tomlin chants. Maybe in his mind, it's out the door. You ain't going to hear from me again. It just it's parting with tradition. It's not putting a happy face on the ending of this at all, at all.

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474.866 - 479.031 Ray Fittipaldo

When he's not there with art the other day to say goodbye. The more I think about that.

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479.433 - 504.918 Donnie

Yeah, and I think that's all on him. I mean, if he's going to say he's underappreciated for what he's done, okay, so you've kept this team afloat. You have taken some bad rosters that you helped create, by the way. I do not want anybody to get that mixed up. I cannot stand when people act as if It is either Kevin Colbert previously or now Omar Khan, Andy Weidel.

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505.319 - 524.805 Donnie

Oh, here is this you-know-what sandwich they threw at Mike Tomlin. Let's see what he can do with it. It's like Mike shows up in August at St. Vincent and says, oh, let's see what I have to work with, boys. Right. No, he had as much of a hand, if not more. More. than those guys in putting the rosters together. We had a caller the other day, I thought he made a pretty funny analogy.

524.825 - 548.573 Donnie

He said, Tomlin is an arsonist that is also a firefighter. He would set the fire, come back and put it out, and people would call him a hero. That's what he got from a lot of people, because he would drag bad teams, and yes, they were bad teams that he helped create. He would drag them to 500, or he would drag them to 10 wins, but then they didn't win anything of significance there.

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in the last 15 years. They haven't been to a Super Bowl in 15 years. They haven't won a playoff game in nine years as of yesterday. Nine years in a day is what we are at right now.

562.414 - 585.881 Ray Fittipaldo

Yeah, you don't get credit. If you break a piece of furniture in the house and you do an okay job of fixing it, you don't get all kinds of praise for fixing or semi-fixing the piece of furniture you broke. I'm sorry. I wrote about that in the Trib, by the way. Everybody should read my first full column there, Donnie. It's called Stark Raving. You like that name for a column? Oh. That's big.

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I like that horse. Thank you, Limits. Chance of snow tonight. High of 33. Fits Toussaint.

Chapter 5: What does Tomlin's absence at a goodbye press conference signify?

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Hello of 14. Joey Bart. Fan weather brought to you by Myers-Lager. Pittsburgh's choice for affordable legal solutions. When did the Mike Tomlin era turn? On a play, on a game, when did the Steelers go from being perennial powerhouse to, I know Art said they were, quote, in contention every year, but in contention for what? Were they considered a real contender?

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620.983 - 631.783 Ray Fittipaldo

When did it become absolutely Steelers every year can go to the Super Bowl to something far less than that where they're over under wins was about eight and a half for years on end.

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