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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Why is Harry still here? Why are you in here? This show is not yours. Why is Harry in here? Why is he sabotaging our show limits? Huh? I don't know. I don't know why he's still there. He does it every day. Every day? Yes. You tell me back there that stuff that you need to play, he's got on lock. Now Crowley's in here sabotaging it. Bob, guess what? What, Joe?
We're talking about the Steelers and the Dolphins. Oh, yeah. TJ Watt's absence, right? Yeah, I'll tell you later. Why don't we get to that story? Because that hovers over the game tonight, but there's also just a lot to talk about. Here's how I see it right now based on what's been reported.
It's just really the facts, but there seems to be one large unanswered question is that TJ Watt at some point Wednesday, which was an off day, had a dry needling treatment. I didn't know what dry needling was until this report came out. Really, until after JJ Watt reported it, right? Because we were all speculating before that what this could be.
And that that dry needling session resulted in a partially collapsed lung for which he had surgery. So I don't know how any of that works. I don't. But the main question now appears to be. Well, two of them. When's he coming back? And also, was that somebody from the team who performed that dry needling or an outside practitioner?
If you talk to people and I was talking to Doran after his show today, you know, outside people do come in to do these things in the team facility from time to time. So it could have been an outside person or it could have been somebody for the Steelers. That seems to be a very pertinent question, especially as liability goes, does it not?
Yes, I think liability obviously comes into play here at some point. But normally when stuff is done at the team facility, I think it's a team person who's doing it, part of the medical team with that team. Having said that, I mean, I've seen a lot of guys go on their own to get acupuncture outside of the building. They do hyperbaric chambers.
They do all these sorts of things in an effort to try, and I think it underscores how difficult it is to be out there every single Sunday. All the wear and tear and the injuries these guys go through. So you're trying to do anything to make yourself available as best you can.
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Chapter 2: What happened to T.J. Watt during the dry needling session?
So this sounds like something that happened. They quickly recognized it, and they did something to make sure it was okay, and he's okay now at home. If you're asking me when I think he'll be back, I have no idea other than to say T.J. Watt's a guy who wants to play. And I would be not surprised if he were back in the game on next Sunday against Detroit.
I don't know how long this is supposed to take to rehab. Rest, they say, is very important. Obviously, when you're dealing with the lungs, that's something you don't want to mess around with. So... But I know that he has a need to play, want to play, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for Detroit. Again, that's a guess. It could be he misses more time.
Chapter 3: What is dry needling and how does it work?
But this is a tough situation to go through given the fact that they really need him in that lineup, I think, and the record speaks to that. They're 1-11 without him. Yeah, I think they're way better prepared from a football standpoint to withstand his absence. But Bob, I think at times teams do allow outside people to come into the facility and perform these things on players.
To me, that's the key question. And the other one you mentioned, and according to Tom Pelissero, he says the Steelers are, quote, hopeful Watt is back on the field against the Lions. Adam Schefter, meanwhile, made it sound less hopeful. He said, we'll see if he's able to come back in next week. That's going to be challenging, too. He sounded much less optimistic earlier.
He had surgery on his lung. You could say, well, it was a small surgery. Like they always say, the only minor surgery is when it's done on somebody else, right? I mean, that's on a lung. So I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised to hear anything. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he's playing next week. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he's out an undetermined amount of time.
Yeah, I mean, nobody knows. The only person who's going to know is he and the team and their physicians on the team. So I asked friends of mine who are in that doctor field, again, generally, they have no knowledge of this specific situation, but stuff like this, there are a number of different ways they can do it. One of them is a very small way of getting in there and changing patients.
Whatever happens in the lung. Another way is more complicated than that. Depending on what it is, though, they've told me if you're an athlete like he is, he can recover from this quicker, more than you think. That's why I wouldn't rule out Detroit. But I also think if they're going to be involved in the playoffs, they want him 100% healthy, whatever that may be.
And you may not want to rush him back. So... I'm just glad he's okay. That's something you never want to hear of, a collapsed lung, stuff like that going on with somebody. That's tough to listen to. So they acted quickly. They got him in there. They took care of it, and now he's resting and hopefully back soon.
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Chapter 4: Who performed the dry needling on T.J. Watt?
Right. They acted, I guess, as quick as they could, but the question is were they also implicated in what happened in the first place? Well, the NFLPA will be involved. They always are in these kinds of things, and the fact that J.J. put that out there before anyone else tells me that that could be a situation moving forward. Well, that also tells me that no matter what moving forward, that T.J.
Watt is going to get his opinion and his side of the story out there right quick, I think, through his brother J.J. Would you agree with that? I mean, that's exactly what happened. Because the Steelers were kind of just telling you the bare minimum, and putting that spin on it, which is fine. That's what a team mostly does. They're not going to give you all the information.
Once he, you know, I don't think there's a more impeccable source than your brother, you know, family member who knows exactly what's going on. So, yeah, but the thing is, this game tonight without him takes on a different look, I think. And like I said, I think Miami would say, okay, we may have thought of not running in that direction. Now we are. We're going to test whoever's over there.
Who do you think it might be and what do you think schematically they will do to try to offset his loss? Well, it's going to be Herbig, right? Some combination of Herbig and Sawyer. And Sawyer will be in there, too. But I think they're going to have to do other things, too. Yeah. To help out over there. Maybe.
But back to Watt for a minute and the dry needling, just so people know, is this is through Will Graves during the AP, according to the Cleveland Clinic. A treatment used for, quote, pain and movement issues associated with myofascial trigger points. So in other words, it's a, you know, I think acupuncture. Yeah, like a pain-killing massage. Massage, deep massage, that type of thing.
So you insert thin needles into or near your trigger points. And I know Patrick Queen was quoted in this story and others saying he prefers acupuncture to dry needling. He said kind of two different things. you go to school for a longer period of time, there's a whole much more scientific thing that goes into it. I don't do the whole dry needle thing, said Queen.
I'm actually scared of dry needling, so I try to stay away from that stuff. James Harrison said, This was through Brooke Pryor's story, told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, way back in 2015 that it was a common practice among Steelers players, dry needling, that this was done all the time. He said it's a more invasive form of needling, painful as hell, he said.
Makes you sore the next day, but the day after you feel fine, he said, about a handful of players did it back then. So it sounds like something that at least then, and maybe now, I don't know, Fairly common, but maybe more risk to it than acupuncture. And this is just just it's an unbelievable situation that has occurred here. Right.
Something I don't think anyone would have expected, especially on a day last week. It was Wednesday. They did not have a practice schedule. It was going to be an off day. They they reversed. rewrote their entire practice week to get them more rest at the beginning of the week. And here they are. Then you hear of an injury that happened on a non-practice day.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of T.J. Watt's injury on the Steelers' season?
The Dolphins are breaking more tackles per carry than any team in the NFL, and the Steelers are second only to the Bengals in most missed tackles. That's what I'm saying. That's a problem for a team that's running as well as Miami is.