The Pomp And Joe Show
Tyler Kennedy would trade Murashov and a first rounder for Jason Robertson
29 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What trade would Tyler Kennedy make for Jason Robertson?
Oh, yes, he is. He's sitting right across from me with a Nashville, Tennessee cap on and a flannel. He looks like a real man today, doesn't he, Tyler? He looks like a lumberjack. No, you see his jacket?
A real man. I've never been accused of being that, I suppose.
That jacket he had on?
Yeah.
National League. That's national television right there.
That's over there. That's something Jim Nance would wear for the game of the week, right? Or something Mike Emmerich would have worn since we're on hockey right now. Or maybe Aaron Andrews. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Look at this. I don't think any of the three of us are handymen around the house. I could be wrong about you, Tyler. I know Bob and I are not.
No.
You know, I actually had an issue at my house. I feel like Bob had one too, but.
Both of you, you were both having gutter issues and they're ones that Malsy's Blue Chew can't fix.
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Chapter 2: How does Stuart Skinner compare to previous Penguins goalies?
Like a cracked pipe or a gutter?
No, it was a gutter.
What's it called? Yeah, an ice backup. Yeah, it's all messed up. You got to get up there with something in it. Do I have to do this? It's almost like a colonoscopy. You got to go up there and relieve all that tension.
So you knew who I called? Jack, you knew who I called, right, Bob?
Jack Scallo.
Jack Scallo.
Scallo roofing.
Oh my God.
Jack gets it done.
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Chapter 3: Should the Penguins consider making significant trades this season?
Just like your outdoor hockey game. I don't think so. No?
I think there should be a roof on the football stadiums because the game is just not entertaining.
It slowed down the other day because of the weather, but that's part of it, isn't it? You've got to be able to adjust.
Tell me the Winter Classic in Buffalo wasn't one of the five greatest games you ever played in.
Yeah, because it played to my strengths. Less stick handling, more chipping the puck and skating.
That's probably why. It's because of the snow, the crowd, the atmosphere.
But we're talking about hockey and football, right? It's on ice. You grew up. I'm not sure how many football players grew up throwing a football when there was half a foot of snow on the ground. You know what I mean? Like, mostly you play on grass, right?
What time would you start playing pickup hockey when you were a kid? Right when you woke up until nighttime with a break for lunch?
Like, we still went to school, you know? Like, but there was, I was, think of, like pools in the summer or like everyone had a backyard rink, like everyone on the street, like it wasn't like, Oh, like, where do we go? It's like, which one do we go? And that's what made it so fun. Like you went to like, think of, um, the basketball courts in Pittsburgh or like the public pools or whatever.
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Chapter 4: What factors influence the Penguins' decision-making for trades?
It comes at you fast. You got to make adjustments on the fly. Your plan still could remain in place. But every now and then, you got to take a detour. And it takes a little longer.
Well, speaking of detours, the Penguins took an unexpected detour this season toward contention, toward the playoffs. They're unbelievable right now. They are actually a good team.
Kyle Dubas is the early leader in the clubhouse for GM of the year.
For sure.
Executive of the year, whatever they call it.
For sure.
Because that's the kind of job he's done so far.
Tyler. I guess the question now, and I never thought I'd be asking it, is do the Penguins need to add? And if so, who's on your radar?
Yeah, I think there's an opportunity. I think we're holding the cards, right? This is a position that I don't think we've been in in a really long time where we got a really good team. We got a younger team, a team that's rolling, where we're throwing out four lines that are coming at you in waves and Plus, we had three first-rounders last year. We got a ton of cap space.
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Chapter 5: How do the Penguins' young players impact their trade strategy?
I want Ben Kendall. Give me him. Would you give up Kendall?
Give me Wyatt Johnson plus Robinson.
Now we're talking. We can negotiate a little bit, but I want... Listen, that Kendall kid I think is going to be for real. I don't want to put undue pressure on him, but so far he's been great. I think Horkoff's going to be good. Billy Zahnan, I was looking at his videos last night. He's another number one pick this year. He looks really good.
Who would have thought we'd be talking like this?
Well, I thought they'd be good. I didn't think they'd be quite this good. No, I thought they would get into the playoffs. That was what I told Joe at the beginning of the year. Bob Priddick did it. Here's the other thing that I think. Speaking of trade, not that they be bringing people in, but they acquired Stuart Skinner, I thought, as a leverage move. He's a goalie. Jari's contract's gone.
That's fine. He's playing well enough and he's young enough where I could see them extending him. So the question becomes, do you trust your young guys enough to do that? If he's playing well and they're going to get into the playoffs and this two-headed thing of Shilovs and Skinner keep going, do you just keep them both?
Well, I think it depends what happens at the deadline, how they finish. I think the rest of the year really determines what happens with Skinner, right? Because... When they flip-flop Skinner and Jari, they both came out of situations that were extremely pressure-filled. Eyes were all on them. There were some rocky games for both of them.
One thing, Skinner left a lot of the pressure back in Edmonton. He comes to a city that he has no ties to, and he can just play real good goaltending. He doesn't listen to the media. He probably doesn't even know what the radio shows are here because he's a guy that's never really come here. Then you think of Jari.
Jari's leaving a lot of turmoil here, a lot of pressure, and now he's going to Edmonton where there's probably way more pressure, way more eyes on him. I think we made a great trade there, and I think Skinner, he's playing great because he's got a good team playing in front of him. I've never seen the Penguins block more shots and play better defensively than I've seen right now.
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Chapter 6: What is the current state of the Penguins' goaltending situation?
But Skinner has a presence, a veteran presence in net. that we haven't had since Marc-Andre Fleury. And that is so comforting, and I feel like the players feel it. They hear him. They respect what he says. And that's big. Like, what a trade.
Yeah, and you're right about the pressure. It's totally off compared to what he was facing, even though he played well. Joe, you go back to the playoffs last year. He was in the Stanley Cup Finals a couple of times. The last game, he... Yeah, they lost, and you want to blame goalies all the time? It wasn't that he just went out and gave up six goals.
Tight-checking games, there were good goals against good teams, but he was the losing goaltender. I think that pressure does build up on them. You convinced he's for real? This is for real with him? He's been for real.
Yeah, he went to the finals twice in a row. You don't go to the finals twice in a row not being a good goalie. Does he let some squeakers in? Yeah, every goalie does. But what he does is when we have a lead, I feel he plays better. He doesn't let those simple goals go in. He keeps everyone calm and collective like, hey, boys, we're the ones in the lead. We're the one that control the play.
We determine the outcome, not the other way around where when Jari was in net, it was like, oh my God, we got a lead. How do we hang on to it? No, this guy has a presence about him. And when you think of last year, what a nightmare, to be honest. How many goals did they score on the first goal? 15. 15. First shot. You're not going to win those games.
That's starting behind the ball right off the bat. All right, then this is their guy for you then. This year and beyond, maybe?
Well, this year for sure.
Because some of the numbers, to be fair, some of the numbers aren't great from his recent career. He's had save percentages under 900. He had a great run in the playoffs last year. I love what he's doing now. When you say he's for real, are you talking signable for real? Like you want him to be the guy?
He's only 28. I don't see why not. What about Miroshov? Again, they have to make that choice.
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Chapter 7: How do recent performances affect the Penguins' playoff chances?
But wouldn't you want a guy? I don't think there's a choice there.
He's doing great right now. Don't get me wrong.
But wouldn't you want a guy like Skinner, who's went to the finals twice, that's been in the league a long time, to mentor a guy like Mirosha? Sure, yeah, I'll do that.
But how much money do you want to spend on him?
They have money to spend, and I would spend it, and I would then, at some point, I would trade him after that contract signed, as it is right now. Here's the number since the trade, just in case you're interested. Tristan Jari has an 884 save percentage and a 323 goals against. Not good.
Skinner, since the trade, has won eight of his last nine, and in 11 games he's played, a 906 save percentage and a 221 goals against.
Yeah, that's inarguable. He's been unbelievable, but there have been stretches in his career where he hasn't been unbelievable.
But the one thing that he has done that Tristan Jari didn't do, Joe, is he's played in big, high-leverage games. Every time Jari had that chance, it wasn't the kind of result you would want.
Even we had a lead. Right. You know, like I was always like, Oh, is that what we're going to like? I never felt confident. And I'm not saying Jari doesn't have the skill. He always had the skill, but I never felt confident no matter if we were winning or losing that he was going to make that save to keep the momentum in our favor. Um,
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Chapter 8: What are the long-term implications of trading for a star player?
He's been a little bit streaky. That's all I'm throwing out there. From Skinner? Yeah. He's not going to do this the rest of the year, or he'd be Dominic Hasek. Yeah, but no goalies. No goalies going to, right? There's going to be an evening out. That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, but that's a lot of... Sample size. 50 how many games? 50-some games? 50 starts. I mean, that's less than three goals against. I mean, that tells me that he's a battler. And I just think there's a lot there to like.
I don't know of the ā when they acquired him, I'm not sure if Kyle Dubas stood in that room with Jason Spezza or whomever they deal with and said, he's our goalie of the future. I think he said, well, we have to figure out something with Jari's deal.
I still don't think they're saying that. I still don't think they're saying that. No.
Because you're going to have to sign him. But ā How about if he continues on this path?
Then you have a decision.
It's a good decision.
Very good, yeah.
But for a player, there's nothing better than playing good hockey. You know what I mean? There's nothing better than finding your game and helping a team win. When you're getting paid big bucks and you suck on the ice, you'll give all that money back to find your game again. And that's where I think it could come into conversation like, hey, we have something good going on here.
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