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The Pomp Podcast

Bitcoin & Crypto Is An Intelligence Tool?! | Robert Viglione

01 Oct 2025

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Robert Viglione is the Co-Founder & CEO at Horizen Labs, and the Founder of zkVerify . In this conversation we talk about zero-knowledge proofs, why they are critical for U.S. national security, how this technology allows machines to share information without revealing data, Rob’s experience as a military intelligence officer in Afghanistan, how he discovered the value of Bitcoin, and why ZKPs are one of the most underrated technologies shaping the future.======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Bitizenship helps Bitcoin-forward investors gain EU residency and a path to Portuguese citizenship in five years while maintaining exposure to Bitcoin. Their regulated fund qualifies you for the Golden Visa through an operating company focused on Bitcoin-native innovation. Book a free strategy call at https://bitizenship.com/pomp.======================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.======================Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 2:28 - ZK proofs and bitcoin & crypto in Afghanistan 7:25 - National security use cases 10:42 - Biggest areas for opportunity 14:45 - AI, proof of human & machine 20:25 - Why blockchain is so valuable 24:44 - What are some technical obstacles? 27:17 - How to cut costs and improve efficiency 30:33 - Bitcoin integration & future tech

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