The Pomp Podcast
Bitcoin Billionaire Reveals His Current Investing Strategy | Arthur Hayes
09 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
If Bitcoin has no retail bent, Bitcoin is worthless.
Chapter 2: How is the Iran conflict affecting global oil prices?
And I think that's what people don't understand, which is why I say, fuck all these bills, who cares? Just DK every single one of them. I hope Trump vetoes every single one of them. We don't need it.
Chapter 3: What is the current battle between inflation and deflation?
We didn't need it in 2009. We didn't need it in 2018.
Chapter 4: Why does the Fed continue to print money?
We certainly don't need it in 2026.
What's going on, guys? Today, we've got a great conversation with Arthur Hayes. He is the chief investment officer at Maelstrom. And in this conversation, he's going to explain what's going on in the macro environment, how the Iran war is likely to impact inflation, deflation, gold, Bitcoin, and other assets in the traditional market.
And then we get deep into some of the crypto stuff that he's really excited right now. Hyperliquid, Zcash, prediction markets.
Chapter 5: What is Arthur Hayes' investment strategy in Bitcoin and gold?
And then Arthur tells us that he thinks that insider trading should be legal. And his explanation is going to blow your mind. It's really going to make you think much more critically about what he's talking about and why he believes that.
Chapter 6: How is Hyperliquid changing the future of trading?
Here's my latest conversation with Arthur Hayes. All right, Arthur, let's just start with the Iran war. Obviously, we keep going back and forth. The war's on, the war's off. We're going to have a ceasefire. We're not going to have a ceasefire. Oil spikes.
Chapter 7: Should insider trading be legalized in crypto?
Everyone's freaking out. What's your read on what's actually happening here? And should investors be worried?
So basically, I have a chart up that I made on my Bloomberg. And it's a spread between the first and the sixth contract out in the future for WTI oil futures prices, right? And so I want to know the spread between the two. So obviously, they pretty much track each other up until, was it February 28, whenever the war started.
Front month blows out to the upside because obviously we have this supply disruption, shut-ins, inability for lots of takers to get through the straight, and obviously pretty much the spot price of oil is very expensive.
Chapter 8: What role do privacy coins like Zcash play in the crypto landscape?
But the back end, yes, it's gone up a bit, but it hasn't gone up nearly as much because I think the market assumes, whether or not that's the right assumption or not, that over the short to medium term, something is going to, some accommodation is going to be made, and oil will go through the strait. And so that's why this back end oil futures prices are not as nearly as high as the front end.
And so this is the spread that I'm tracking. All that matters is, will the oil go through the strait or not? It's very unfortunate that there's all these people dying in the Middle East. But I'm sure for most of your readers, they don't live there. They have no family members there. They could give two fucks about what happens in the Middle East as long as gas price is not $6 a gallon, right?
So that's all that matters for the most majority of the people around this world is, can I get on my flight? Is food cheap, right? Can I go about my life in the way I was going about it before this conflict started? If the oil flows and there are still Israelis and Iranians and Lebanese and people all around the Middle East dying, nobody gives a flying fuck.
But if the oil is not flowing, we got a problem. And so that's why all the chart that I look at for the Iran war is, what is the spread between those two contracts? If back end oil prices start ratcheting higher, we know that oil is not going through the strait in whatever toll or however you got to pay the Iranian generals to get your oil through the strait.
If you can do it and the back end oil prices stay contained, we're OK. If that's not happening, then we got a bigger problem. And so that's how I framed the Iran war. This ceasefire, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But if the IRGC, if the general say, for whatever reason, it's working enough for them to keep the oil flowing through the street.
It's working enough for the Trump administration to not essentially destroy a country of 90 million people with nuclear weapons or whatever the fuck they're going to do and deal with the pushback from other nations. We're like, that's kind of fucked up what you did. Then. The death and the destruction might continue in the Middle East, and it doesn't fucking matter.
So I think that's how I sort of look at this Iran situation is look at the oil chart and look at that spread.
Do you put any weight on the fact that people say, hey, the straits closed, but then it looks like the transponders are being shut off? Do you just look at price is actually the truth teller and all of the narrative and what's actually closed and what's not and the citrony?
analyst that's there at the straight taking a picture and like, like all this craziness that goes on, which is frankly like super entertaining, right? If you're just like a, it's interesting or this stuff, but is it just like the price ultimately is the truth teller, whether the straight is open or not?
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