Natalie Brunell is one of the leading voices in bitcoin, widely respected for helping millions understand the asset and the broader macro landscape. In this conversation, we break down why Bitcoin’s price has stalled, how it stacks up against gold, the biggest misconceptions critics still get wrong, stablecoins, Wall Street’s growing role, and whether Satoshi’s identity even matters. Natalie also shares insights from her book Bitcoin Is For Everyone and why she believes bitcoin’s long-term outlook remains as strong as ever.======================Bitizenship gives Bitcoin-forward investors a fast, compliant path to EU residency. Our Bitcoin Dolce Visa lets you invest in a 100% Bitcoin-aligned startup and qualify for Italy’s Golden Visa with one strategy. Claim your free strategy call at https://www.bitizenship.com/pomp.======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 80+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $1,000 in rewards.======================DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at ⁠SolanaTo10K.com⁠.======================Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro2:09 – Inflation & the U.S. affordability crisis5:12 – Bitcoin vs. Gold6:27 – Wall Street’s role in bitcoin and nation-state adoption10:59 – Bitcoin as payments vs. store of value12:56 – Stablecoins relationship to bitcoin16:52 – Censorship, de-banking & financial freedom21:16 – Banks & bitcoin reserves22:42 – Media coverage of bitcoin and how to fix broken incentives27:36 – “Bitcoin Is For Everyone”33:20 – How to measure inflation35:47 – The money printer mountain37:26 – Who is Satoshi? Does it matter?38:45 – Selling the book and closing remarks

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