The Pomp Podcast
Did Jerome Powell Lie to Congress? The Fed’s Palace, Politics & Rate Cuts | Anthony & John Pompliano
13 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
What's up, everyone?
Chapter 2: What controversy surrounds Jerome Powell?
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What's going on, guys? Today, we got a great conversation with John Pompliano. In this conversation, we talk about what's going on with Jerome Powell.
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Chapter 3: Will the Federal Reserve cut rates in the near future?
He's in hot water. Inflation, monetary policy, how it's impacting the market, what's going on with Bitcoin. And then we talk a little bit about the NYC token and what Eric Adams got himself into as well. All that and more in this conversation with John Pompliano.
Chapter 4: How is AI influencing inflation trends?
All right, John, what's the first topic? All right, Jerome Powell seems to be the guy talking the town right now. Fed chairman, he's out later this year. Who do you think is going to be the next Fed chair?
All right, before we get to who the next Fed chair, let's talk about Jerome Powell for a second. So there's a couple of things that I'm thinking. One, horrible look for both sides that there's any sort of tit for tat.
Chapter 5: What is the relationship between Bitcoin and the Federal Reserve?
You want to have your executive branch, you want your Fed, your Treasury, all these people, you want to have the sense that they're all on the same page, they're working together collaboratively, and they're trying to figure out solutions to problems. That's not what we have.
But that's part of the beauty of democracy and the capitalistic system and the checks and balances that we have, is that you can have some people who think one thing, other people who think another thing, and we kind of grind forward to get to the end result. So when I see that Jerome Powell is being investigated, my first thing is, one, it's an investigation, not a charge.
So what I understand by Googling around a lot and seeing what some people are talking about online is that most investigations go nowhere. It's just people asking questions.
Chapter 6: Why are younger generations less interested in Bitcoin?
The second thing is that the attorney general, this Janine Pirro, I think is how you say her name, she came out and she said, listen, We started asking them questions. There was no investigation. We were just asking for some information.
Chapter 7: What is the NYC token controversy involving Eric Adams?
They ignored us. They stiff-armed us. They said, we're not even going to acknowledge the fact you exist.
Chapter 8: What advice is given to investors who have lost money?
And so in order for us to get the information, we then had to make an official investigation because now we have certain things where we can subpoena and do all this kind of stuff, et cetera. So that's an important detail that it sounds like the Attorney General didn't want to have an investigation, but now they're claiming they had to because the Fed wasn't responding.
Why weren't they responding? I don't know, but that's an important detail. Third, this whole thing is being politicized by the Fed. The whole thing. You're telling me, let me get this right. On Friday, subpoenas go out. They don't say anything about it on Friday. They don't say anything about it on Saturday.
They don't say nothing about it Sunday morning, Sunday early afternoon, Sunday during football. They wait. And in my opinion, they probably leaked the story to the New York Times. And Jerome Powell, he dropped a freaking influencer video online like he's got an OnlyFans account. This dude was locked and loaded with a video.
There is nobody at the Federal Reserve who is able to read the New York Times report, write a script, record a video with Jerome Powell, edit it and publish it within minutes of the New York Times report coming out. So what that tells you is they knew the report was coming and they were prepared.
Now, why did they do it Sunday afternoon or Sunday when they did it Sunday afternoon, late afternoon, right before futures opened? Why would they do that? Could they possibly have leaked it and released the video intentionally to manipulate the market lower to then cause pain in the market because they know Trump cares about the stock market? I don't know.
I'm I'm just trying to figure it out like everybody else. But that seems like suspect timing to me. So now if you flip around the other side, horrible look for the Department of Justice to be going after the Fed chairman after. The president and the administration has been advocating for lower rates. Now, that was my thought process Sunday night, Monday morning. Two things have changed.
One is that we got the information about the attorney general trying to get answers to questions, not being able to get it, and basically coming out and saying, hey, I didn't seek approval from my bosses, from the administration, from the president, any of that stuff. Now, is that true? I don't know. We can only go off of what we're being told publicly. But...
If that is true, that's a pretty important data point that they were just trying to get information in private without an investigation and you weren't talking to them. Okay. The second thing, this is the red flag. Remember when the virus was spreading around in December or March of 2020? You remember when there was all these public narratives and over the years you can go, I got receipts online.
It's the beauty of doing this every single day. And I said, this feels fishy. This story feels fishy, and I'm going to go out on a limb, and I'm going to say that over the last couple of days, the odds that Jerome Powell misled Congress, in my mind, have increased. Doesn't mean that he for sure did it, but let's say that previously I thought the odds maybe were like 20%. I might be at 50-50 now.
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