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Is Bitcoin In A Bear Market? | Anthony Pompliano

02 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: Is Bitcoin currently in a bear market?

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One of the most important questions in Bitcoin right now, is Bitcoin in a bear market? The reason why a lot of people are asking that is because they're trying to figure out what happened. We went up to $126,000, set a brand new all-time high, and then we came crashing down. We recently hit $75,000 in Bitcoin's price. That's a 40% decline. Obviously, that's got a lot of people shook.

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Now, if you've been around, you know that Bitcoin is likely to be very volatile.

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Chapter 2: What makes this bear market different from previous ones?

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We have seen things like a 30% drawdown four, five, six times in bull markets. And so some people are saying, wait, we're actually not in a bear market. We simply are just seeing normal drawdowns as we continue to go higher. $150,000, $200,000, $250,000. I don't agree with those people. I think that Bitcoin is in a bear market, but it might be a different type of bear market than you're used to.

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So let me explain what are some of the things that I think are happening here. The first is that there's an entire cohort of people that subscribe to the four-year cycle. This idea that the halving drives the price up, then there is some sort of correction, we then have these 80% drawdowns, and then we kind of repeat the process over and over again. It's happened multiple times in the past.

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These individuals continue to subscribe to this idea. Now, the reason why I think that the four-year cycle is interesting is because I do believe that the halving has an impact on price. If you have a supply shock to an asset and demand stays constant, then you are likely to see higher prices.

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What I think is a little bit different though, is that the four-year cycle can remain, yet we can still have different severities in terms of the appreciation and the decrease in price. That's just volatility disappearing. And we know that Bitcoin used to be an 80-vol asset, but now it's only a 40-vol asset.

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And so if you've cut volatility in half, you should expect less on the upside and less on the downside. Now, another reason why I think that Bitcoin is likely to be in a bear market right now, other than just the price is down a lot and the four year cycle folks are pretty well timed in calling the top last October, is that we also understand that Bitcoin is becoming financialized.

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Now, as Bitcoin has entered into the Wall Street world, what we are watching is all of these firms try to figure out, how do I take my type of strategy, apply it to Bitcoin, where there's lots of volatility and lots of alpha, and extract economic value for me and my investors? We originally saw public companies adopting it with strategy and others. We then saw the ETFs become very popular.

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Asset managers are simply saying, hey, I can take a 25 basis point fee on helping people buy Bitcoin, and then I can continue to take that year after year after year. So there's an economic incentive for them to do so. But now we're seeing things like covered call strategies that are going out as ETFs from those same asset managers.

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We also are seeing the introduction of other types of options into the market. And so now people can hedge. They can apply different types of pressure, both on the downside or upside of Bitcoin. The financialization of Bitcoin is going to temper volatility, in my opinion.

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And that's what we've been seeing, both in terms of the launches of these products and the adoption by the consumer, but also in the decreasing volatility. Now, the other thing that I think is really important here that people aren't talking about is I believe that markets are forward-looking. Actually, I would argue that that is just how markets operate. It doesn't matter what my opinion is.

Chapter 3: How does Wall Street adoption affect Bitcoin's price?

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If that's the case, then the drawdown that we've seen would be about the whole move, right? Somewhere in that $75,000 range. Now, I'm not claiming that that was the bottom. I'm not claiming that I've got a strong opinion on this. But I do think that if you get the volatility cut in half, then the drawdown should be about half. And so we're somewhere in that ballpark now.

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And I think the next couple of weeks will be very important to understand, is it likely to be a bigger drawdown? Or should we just be able to take the volatility levels and then assign it to Bitcoin levels and

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understand where that market bottom is likely to be now the other thing that i'm paying attention to here is bear markets can always get worse if there is stress in the market and where could that stress come from in the last cycle we saw a lot of lending there's re a lot of re-hypothecation of bitcoin and once you had some sort of issue then all of a sudden there's this contagion and it's off this kind of chain effect across all these different companies we saw companies go bankrupt we

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We saw lots of funds come under immense duress. There was all these issues that people had to try to work through. And in that process, that led to lots of selling. People wanted to sell Bitcoin to raise cash. They wanted liquidity in US dollars. And so all that sell pressure and capitulation drove the price lower and lower and lower until finally we had bottomed sub 20K in the last cycle.

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Now, 70,000 to 20K was right in line with those same kind of 80% drawdowns.

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one of the areas where i could see there being issues or stress showing up in the future are these bitcoin treasury companies now i'm intimately familiar with them right i've evaluated a lot of them we've got a public company that's got bitcoin on its balance sheet etc but what i think is important is not just oh there's public companies with bitcoin on their balance sheet it's more important to look at what are the terms of any debt that they have

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And the reason why that's important is because if somebody becomes a forced seller in 2022, if they were a forced seller because of the contagion, or in 2026 because of some debt that they have that forces them to sell the Bitcoin at an inopportune time, then that is where that kind of capitulation sell pressure could come from.

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Now, most of the debt in the public market is not going to be kind of aligned with that type of situation. Instead, a lot of times there's longer duration debt. There usually is some sort of convert component to it. I don't see a lot of these companies right now taking out loans against their Bitcoin where there's liquidation type risk.

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And so, so far in general, I don't see the risk that you'd be worried about in these companies.

Chapter 4: What role does inflation play in Bitcoin's market dynamics?

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It's not about inflation. It's not about a single fiat currency. It's actually about the fact that certain central banks are saying, look, we want to significantly increase our gold reserves and therefore gold is going up, even if we are not necessarily worried about the inflation. Now, Bitcoin historically has not been an asset that is bought by central banks.

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And so the quote unquote net new buyer to the store of value category are these central banks. Now, it's not that they're new buyers, it's just that the capital they're putting in is quote-unquote net new to the inflation hedge or the store of value asset class. And so Bitcoin does not yet be accepted by these central banks as an asset that is part of a defiat process.

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Instead, they look at Bitcoin as something that could potentially hedge against inflation, or may even be still in the speculative bucket. When they go to lessen their dependency on all fiat currencies, Bitcoin is not part of that conversation yet.

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I do believe in the future it will be, but the asset is not large enough, it is not mature enough, it does not have a long enough operating history, and it has not resonated with the central bankers in that way. I actually would argue that central bankers look at gold as an asset. It looks at it as something that could be an ally to them.

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I think that a lot of central bankers still look at Bitcoin as a negative, as something that is competing with them. And so that's a good reason or a good explanation, in my opinion, as to why gold is going up, but Bitcoin is going down, yet we are not expecting inflation. And so Bitcoin didn't break as an inflation hedge.

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I actually think that it's just gold is being bought for a different reason. Now, when you expand out across the metals, you see silver, copper, platinum, et cetera. Then you start getting into a lot of the industrial use cases, et cetera. And also, you know, kind of supply constraints with things like platinum that are really driving the metal prices. And so in conclusion, I think that Bitcoin

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probably isn't a bear market. My expectation is that Bitcoin is not going to just do a U-turn and all of a sudden go back to $126,000. I think we've got some time here where Bitcoin is going to go kind of flat to down. But if you've been around for a while, you know this. When Bitcoin goes down, the hardcore Bitcoiners get excited. They try to buy more Bitcoin.

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They try to figure out, how do I continue to accumulate Bitcoin? And a big thing, if you're new to Bitcoin, that you need to think about is, am I measuring my portfolio in Bitcoin or in dollars? Different people do different things. And some people, you know, I would even argue me, certain assets I denominate in Bitcoin, like Bitcoin. And so I just constantly think about how many Bitcoin do I own?

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And should I be buying more? And can I increase the number of Bitcoin that I own?

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