Robinhood’s Big Bet on Crypto, AI & Tokenized Stocks | Johann Kerbrat

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Johann Kerbrat 0:00
The advantage of Bitcoin is, and crypto in general, is that it's 24-7.

What is the future of 24/7 trading?

Johann Kerbrat 0:03
So I think we are going to slowly get into this world where you will see 24-7 trading. I think it's important for accessibility, I think, to trade the news.

How does Robinhood integrate stocks, crypto, and prediction markets?

Johann Kerbrat 0:11
The reality of Robinhood has been, you know, removing the friction, removing fees when possible, reducing as much as possible the barrier to entry, and also bringing all these educational tools that you have on the platform to make it just a thing that you can actually do because now you're learning and you know what to do moving forward.
Anthony Pompliano 0:27
What's going on, guys? Today, we've got a great conversation with Johan Kerbrot.

What is Robinhood's approach to building products internally?

Anthony Pompliano 0:31
In this conversation, he is going to explain exactly what is going on at Robinhood. They're one of the fastest growing retail platforms in the world. They've been embracing crypto, prediction markets, equities, tokenization, and much, much more. He is the SVP and general manager of crypto and international at Robinhood. And he's going to not only explain what they're doing from a product standpoint, but also how they're building products internally, what their investors are doing on the platform. And then we get deep in the details.

How are independent investors changing the trading landscape?

Anthony Pompliano 0:54
What's he doing on the platform? How's he using some of the products for his family? And he also helps us better understand what is going on with artificial intelligence, both in the market and at Robinhood.

What role do stablecoins play in global payments?

Anthony Pompliano 1:03
This conversation is packed.

How is Robinhood navigating tokenized stocks and regulation?

Anthony Pompliano 1:04
I also give him a little bit of a hard time because he's French. And, you know, from America's perspective, we got to give him a hard time. Here's my latest conversation with Johan Kerbat. All right, Johan, I thought a great spot is there's a lot of geopolitical uncertainty right now. Obviously, there's missiles dropping in the Middle East. People are trying to figure out what's going on. We've seen bonds, Bitcoin and gold all do things that we did not expect.

What are the implications of the Bitstamp acquisition for institutional crypto?

Anthony Pompliano 1:22
We saw bonds go down. We saw gold go down and Bitcoin went up. And so I think a lot of people are scratching their head and saying, what is going on? You guys have one of the largest retail trading platforms in the world. You get to see what are they doing? What are they doing? Are they buying? Are they selling? Are they panicked? Are they cool, calm and collected?
Johann Kerbrat 1:38
Yeah, I mean, it depends on the weekend because so many things happen in the past few weekends. But what we've seen so far is that a lot of our customers are actually taking advantage of the deep and trying to stay afloat of what is happening on the market. Bitcoin has been difficult. You know, it's been going up and down, but so far it's been fairly resilient. If you look at the past 12 months since last February. So, you know, overall, I think what the advantage of Bitcoin is and crypto in general is that it's 24 seven. So when something happened on the weekend, people can actually use that to trade and use this information to actually take a position.
Anthony Pompliano 2:13
And when you see the weekend chaos, one of the things I find very interesting is Trump, for some reason, he waits till 4.01 PM on Friday. He'll say something good or bad. Aftermarket stuff will react. Obviously, crypto will react. And then somehow, someway, every Sunday afternoon, an hour before futures open, he'll say something else and market will move. Again, you guys have been one of the pioneers, I think, of the after-hours trading and trying to get as close to 24-5 as possible. What's kind of the state of that now? And do you see different behavior during the after-hours trading?
Johann Kerbrat 2:46
Yeah, absolutely. So 24-5 is already live for us. So it starts on Sunday at 8 PM, and it goes all the way. It's not for all the tickers, so we have a limited function. But at the end of the day, it's really interesting because I think to your point, on the weekend, there are things happening, but also at night during the week. And also for some of our customers that are in the UK, for example, they want to be able to access the market when they're awake and not wait for the US to come in. So I think we are going to slowly get into this world where you will see 24-7 trading.

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