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The AI Shock Is About to Reprice Bitcoin | Jordi Visser

10 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

2.714 - 3.515 Anthony Pompliano

What's up, everyone?

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Chapter 2: Is the economy entering a phase of high growth and low inflation?

3.795 - 14.829 Anthony Pompliano

This is Anthony Pompliano. Many of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp Podcast, which is my effort to find the most interesting people in the world and sit with them for hours while I ask questions in an effort to learn.

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Chapter 3: Could GDP really reach 10% in the near future?

15.249 - 30.207 Anthony Pompliano

So it would mean the world to me if you would subscribe to the show on your favorite audio platform, watch episodes on YouTube, and tell your friends and family about the podcast. My goal is to help millions learn from the world's most interesting people. So let's get into today's episode.

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30.44 - 39.712 Unknown

Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments.

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Chapter 4: What does the current economic setup mean for investors?

39.732 - 53.629 Unknown

You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

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54.166 - 70.42 Jordi Visser

That's the societal thing that has me focused on Bitcoin because I believe capitalism is ending. And people don't want to hear that, but I believe it's ending because artificial intelligence and Marc Andreessen talks about this. This is the most unbelievable technology investment scene I've seen, but...

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70.4 - 86.788 Jordi Visser

The competition is intense and the ability of getting a moat around your business is impossible. You need more storage. You need more places to run these things. The hyperscalers need data centers to supply that. There is a bottleneck that is happening. So the companies, in my opinion, that are going to work this year,

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Chapter 5: How is AI impacting energy and global geopolitics?

87.764 - 102.723 Anthony Pompliano

What's going on, guys? Today, we've got a great episode with Jordy Visser. It is a blast and you're going to learn something. We talk about what's going on with economic policy, high growth, low inflation, housing, why President Trump seems so aggressive on geopolitical stage, what's going on with all of the rare earths and various minerals around the world.

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103.003 - 117.602 Anthony Pompliano

And then we also talk about AI, humanoid robots, what's happening with the acceleration, how productivity and growth are coming back. And ultimately, we talk about what's going on in the market and what's going to happen to your investment portfolio. We have a ton of fun and I think you're really going to enjoy this one. Here's my latest conversation with Jordy Visser.

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117.7 - 121.166 Anthony Pompliano

All right, Jordy, we got a lot to get through here. So let's talk the economy first.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of President Trump’s housing plan?

121.647 - 131.543 Anthony Pompliano

We now are starting to get a lot of data points that I think are showing the Trump economic policies are working. Now, there's plenty of people who don't like the president. They don't like a lot of things that he's doing.

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Chapter 7: Will falling home prices affect voter sentiment?

131.603 - 143.303 Anthony Pompliano

But if we just look at the data, it seems like we have backed ourselves into a high growth, low inflation economy. Is that your read on GDP growth, the inflation, the jobs number, et cetera? Or do you have some different view?

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144.093 - 156.609 Jordi Visser

I don't think at this point, I mean, things could change. I don't think they're going to change much, but there's no way to get around the fact that inflation has been far lower than people thought.

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Chapter 8: How are humans and humanoid robots expected to work together?

156.869 - 167.923 Jordi Visser

And then when you add in, and this is an important part for where we are today, I think people just, they've got short memories. Most economists were calling for a recession. Great depression. Yeah.

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167.903 - 190.585 Jordi Visser

And they were calling for stagflation at the best case, meaning, well, we're going to have a lower growth and we're going to have inflation running on the high side because tariffs are going to go through. Well, both of those were not only wrong, they were wrong in a way that, and I wrote about this this week, I basically said capitalism is effectively fractured and ending.

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191.447 - 201.302 Jordi Visser

And what I meant by that, as you read through it, is we are having 4% GDP, the last two quarters that we have GDP numbers for,

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201.282 - 226.111 Jordi Visser

combined were over four percent nominal gdp in q3 was annualized at eight percent and during those six months we created zero jobs and today we got the payroll number but again it's you know it's it's low numbers and we revised down more than we created this month from prior months so There's no way to refute the fact that the labor market is soft.

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226.131 - 243.866 Jordi Visser

Gas at the pump is down to the lowest level in a few years. And at the same time, housing or rents are coming down across the country. So we have declining inflation. And now what people are starting to talk about, and this is why I'm not going to give the credit to Trump in terms of the overall situation.

244.567 - 257.85 Jordi Visser

I do think by the end of this year, people will start to realize that productivity gains are going up. And the question is, how much of this is around artificial intelligence? And I think a really, really high part of it is about artificial intelligence.

257.83 - 282.615 Anthony Pompliano

I always, as I've looked through this, think about the government's job in a weird way with the economy is to create the ingredients or the inputs as best they can for the private sector to run into the end zone, if you will. One of the things that seems to be at play here is everyone evaluated, let's just take the tariffs, kind of isolate that as one example.

282.955 - 306.994 Anthony Pompliano

Everyone academically said, okay, if you raise tariffs, that means that you are going to raise consumer prices. Theoretically, that makes sense. I have... a lot of things I wrote about where I said, well, if you go back and you look, that's not actually what happens, right? If you go and you look at just tariffs alone, you can see that, well, the Chinese manufacturer eats a little bit of it.

307.335 - 320.71 Anthony Pompliano

Then the exporter eats a little bit of it. Then the logistics company eats a little bit of it. The importer eats a little bit of it. And there are still, there can be an impact to the consumer. It's just way lower than people think. If you raise tariffs 10%, you don't get a 10% increase in consumer prices.

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