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H2 Frank Opinions, What in the World, Soren?

12 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights of Frank Caliendo's appearance?

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Follow that, Frank. Yeah, thanks. Frank to Frank. Back-to-back Franks on before, haven't we?

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7.699 - 10.401 Frank Caliendo

I'm not sure, but he's awesome. He is great.

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10.421 - 16.047 Unknown

He's really good. He's a fun guy to talk to. He's a nice guy. Couldn't be a nicer guy.

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17.668 - 20.071 Frank Caliendo

Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of ego involved there.

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20.091 - 24.715 Unknown

No, no. And he could have a big one. He's really funny.

24.855 - 25.356 Frank Caliendo

Yeah, I know.

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He's really good. And he's really talented with the impressions and everything. Yeah, a lot of fun talking to him.

30.624 - 37.66 Soren

You'd never guess he was a big deal by talking to him. Yeah. Which is part of the reason why I think he's really good, because he works so hard at it.

37.68 - 40.346 Frank Caliendo

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. He doesn't leave anything to chance.

Chapter 2: How does Frank Boal feel about Kansas City sports?

99.015 - 106.663 Frank Caliendo

I'm great. How are you guys today? I guess you're in a better mood now since Frank Caliendo was here. Tough to be in a bad mood after he leaves. I know. I know.

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106.683 - 113.963 Soren

Yeah, it's great. See you, Frank. Whatever. What am I doing with my life?

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Thanks for making us laugh, I guess. Yeah, it's tough to be in a bad mood with that. I'm not going to try to have you do jokes because you'd fail miserably. No, please don't. Yes, I would. Let's talk about week one, Chiefs-Broncos. Should that be in KC or should it be in Denver? What's the better location, knowing that's the game?

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133.947 - 151.698 Frank Caliendo

Well... Number one, starting a little bit later. I mean, that's the game. Getting an extra day to get Patrick Mahomes ready? No, no, no. Starting like on the 14th of September. It's almost mid-September by the time they get their first game. That gives Patrick Mahomes a little longer to heal.

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151.718 - 162.996 Frank Caliendo

I think that's going to sound like conspiracy theory, but I think they know more about Bo Nix and Patrick Mahomes' injuries and where they are rehab-wise than we do.

163.094 - 165.518 Unknown

Oh, hang on. Is that supposed to be news?

165.718 - 165.978 Frank Caliendo

No.

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If the teams that employ the doctors that look at them don't know more than us.

170.906 - 185.75 Frank Caliendo

No, no. I'm just saying that the NFL, the schedule makers and everybody else in the NFL knows a little bit more than we do as well. Okay. You know what I mean? That both Knicks and Mahomes would be present on that day to make it that game. All right, that's the only thing I'm looking at.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the NFL schedule for the Chiefs?

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Well, that was kind of the point you were making, wasn't it? No, I said my point was that the Broncos likely feel like they should have a home game for one of the division.

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233.813 - 237.257 Frank Caliendo

Absolutely they should. I mean, they're going to get a home in a way anyway.

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The Chiefs won seven in a row. Did they open for seven consecutive years at home? Well, they didn't open at home last year after coming off a Super Bowl. Yeah, right. So, no. Fair point. But that was their home game that they went ahead and let go to Brazil. Ah. So, technically, that was a home game.

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But somebody's like, you're going to play that Friday. Somebody's going to play in Australia. Somebody's giving up a home game for that. But that was their home game. But I think the answer is no. I don't think they opened at home every year. I'm sure they didn't. I mean, I get it if that's the tradition you want to make. Is that okay and when? But I don't know.

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I think most coaches would be like, no, I'm okay opening on the road when the weather's nice. Let's open on the road in Green Bay. I know Andy Reid likes playing cold games at home here in December and January.

Chapter 4: What are the current challenges facing the Royals?

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So then Denver goes... So if you open on the road, it gives you a better chance to have home games later. In December in Denver. For Denver.

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If you're thinking... That game in Brazil was a Chargers home game. The Chargers came here later in the year. That was a game that... Yeah. It was? Yeah. Oh, that's right. That was a game that Mahomes got hurt in. Okay, so the Chiefs still didn't open at home. Yeah, that's what I was saying. They didn't open... They wouldn't have been at home last year for the opener. Now they moved it, but...

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Well, I think the only reason that was the opener was because the Chargers were willing to play the Chiefs down there. Probably so. Because they're a road team when they play at home against the Chiefs.

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320.696 - 325.806 Soren

Yeah, 22 coming off of the AFC Championship game. They were at Arizona.

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326.613 - 328.235 Frank Boal

2018, they were away as well.

329.436 - 331.138 Soren

Yeah. Yeah. So it's happened a number of times.

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Yeah. I think you want the most compelling television matchups. I do, too. And I think you need to make sure that you've got good TV matchups each week. That doesn't happen very often. Sometimes that's just because teams get hurt and things go south. But I really do think that whoever's got say in the schedule is not good. I don't think they do a very good job of making the NFL schedule.

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I think they put way too many teams that the arrow is pointing down on national TV games because they have no ability to assess.

363.333 - 386.347 Frank Caliendo

What this team is going to look like in that particular year, yeah. And sometimes there's teams that they hardly give any primetime games to anyway, and that is a team all of a sudden, and all of a sudden that team's in the race for the AFC championship or the NFC championship. They come out of nowhere to contend. We have teams like that every year. That happens every year.

Chapter 5: How does the panel view the upcoming Chiefs-Broncos game?

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Grant, the numbers were much better, 5,241 touchdowns. But when you look back and he didn't have a receiver catch more than four touchdowns, and that was McCole Hardman, who probably two of them were shuttle passes. And yet he throws for 5,241 touchdowns as the MVP right after Tyree Kill goes. Last year's team was worse. They were worse.

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I mean, Travis Kelsey is not the Travis Kelsey that he had that year when he caught 1,400, almost 1,500 yards.

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521.909 - 523.231 Soren

The offensive line was better.

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And Kelsey's back in his age. Who was the offensive line that year? That year would have been Trey Smith, would have been Creed Humphrey, would have been Joe Tooney. The left tackle would have been Orlando Brown, right?

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540.169 - 543.392 Soren

Yeah, Brown, Tooney, Humphrey, Smith, and Andrew Wiley.

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I mean, three of them are the same, or two of them are the same. If they can get the left tackle on the field and healthy and playing and in a rhythm, I think they'll be pretty good. That's it.

565.175 - 589.408 Frank Caliendo

Plus, the running game has been bolstered. That'll help because virtually every offensive lineman, I think, has at least a general concept of how to run block. Okay? And they enjoy run blocking. But the wide receiver core wouldn't scare me if I'm a defense coordinator. I don't care who's playing quarterback for the Chiefs. Okay? That outfit, they would not scare me. I'd just go, what?

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Well, and I think that's, you know... I'm concerned about the offense. Yes. I agree totally.

600.301 - 612.594 Soren

They've put a lot into coaching. It was the problem. And if there was a position that was addressed, it was running back. But they didn't really address anything else.

Chapter 6: What are some surprising facts about the NFL schedule?

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At the bottom, added Eric Bien-AimƩ.

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623.039 - 638.097 Soren

Unless they figure, you know, kind of one of our themes has been, you know, they're going to play football again next year. They thought, we can't do this in one year. We really need the talent on defense. We're going to do the defense this year. We're going to do some coaching tweaks. We're going to get a new running back in the next year.

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638.157 - 643.284 Soren

It won't be ninth overall, but we'll be able to address more talent on the offensive side of the year.

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I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying, but I think they would have done more on offense if that was their plan and said, we'll live with a lesser defense. I do think it is entirely possible. Look, what do I really think happened? I think they... Blocked in on Montsour Delane really early. Knew what it was going to take to get him.

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They had a fallback plan in case somebody took him two or three. Their fallback plan was going to be, I'm sure they would have listened to trade downs. I think they would have taken Tate, the wide receiver from Ohio State, if he was there. I think that was one of those two was who they wanted. And I think everybody knew Cleveland was moving out, so you had to be ready.

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Six was where you were going to have to go to if you were going up.

Chapter 7: How do the hosts feel about LeBron James' future in the NBA?

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None of the other teams were moving out. And so based on that, they went, OK, we've got to go for him. I do think that they came to this draft saying we have to have two corners. And if they didn't get in the lane, then they were going to take a corner at 29. And we heard Brett Veach's explanation. They didn't think the second guy, the San Diego State guy, and he didn't make it to them.

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And they didn't feel like he would make it to them. So if that was the case and they just stayed put at nine and took whoever they took, they were going to be moving their third round pick to get up into the, you know, do what they did for Trent McDuffie and take Johnson. Yeah. And they're like, well, we might as well go get the guy we really want.

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We'll throw in the fifth and we'll go get the guy we really want. So I get it. But once you kind of set down that path of Delane, then I think they're probably looking to de-tackle. Was it Caleb Downs? That was the Florida kid. Caleb Banks. Caleb Banks. Caleb Banks.

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Chapter 8: What is the latest news on Donovan Mitchell in the playoffs?

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Might have been a possibility. He was gone. And so that puts Peter Woods up there. There were no offensive tackles.

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748.239 - 754.626 Frank Caliendo

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Everybody they could have had was gone to support that offensive line or a wide receiver.

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Cooper McDonald was there, but I don't think they saw him the way we see him. I saw him as a legit possibility there. That's the guy I'll track. I don't think they, for whatever reason, were locked in on Cooper. I think they wasn't even close. They're like Peter Woods.

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771.126 - 772.808 Frank Caliendo

He wasn't on their board that high.

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No, and from what I hear, they were pretty fired up on the R. Mason Thomas. I think he was probably even in consideration for 29. And so then it kind of snowballs. It kind of gets going. I think they wanted to take a running back in the 25 draft. And, well, we're not taking one in the first, and then the second happened, and then the third, and the fourth.

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Okay, now in the fifth, we're ready to go. But then a run happens, and they had Jeffrey Bosa ranked really high. I mean, right now that doesn't look good. So they didn't address running back. So I think that's part of the reason why then they traded up in the fifth, was they're like, well, we had this getaway from us. We're not... We're not taking a chance that Emma Johnson doesn't get to us.

817.797 - 820.883 Frank Caliendo

We're going and getting him. Yeah, we can't do it again. That's right.

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But I wonder how much, you know, since... Help me out, Curtis. What was the guy's name that was the second corner? Second corner was Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson from San Diego State.

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Since Chris Johnson was their second guy, and they had a ballpark of where they were, I wonder, the thing I would ask on, like, did you explore fully something other than Montsour Delane would be, did you really look into... what you could do to go backwards. And I don't mean just backwards to 12 with the Cowboys, which the Cowboys were clearly looking to come up.

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