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H2 Matt Derrick, Royals

01 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What banking uncertainties are discussed at the start?

0.537 - 15.103 Justin Mahoney

Hi, Justin Mahoney here, president of First Business Bank's Kansas City region. With all the bank mergers lately, banking can feel uncertain. But rest assured, First Business Bank remains Kansas City's premier commercial bank. First Business Bank, member FDIC.

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15.286 - 30.549 Jack Mahoney

We begin our number two of the program with Matt Derrick of ChiefsDigest.com. And first things first here, Matt, a little bit of news coming out of the NFL earlier this morning. We called it earth shattering. I'm sure you would share that sentiment.

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30.949 - 32.051 Curtis Seabolt

Juju to the Giants. What do you think?

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32.071 - 36.999 Jack Mahoney

Yeah, actually, Juju to the Giants and OBJ to the Giants. And Braxton Berrios to the Giants. Three receivers.

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37.179 - 39.724 Curtis Seabolt

They are. All going to New York.

Chapter 2: What breaking NFL news does Matt Derrick share?

39.784 - 58.86 Jack Mahoney

The 2018 Giants wide receiver room is loaded. That is a loaded, loaded team. But in all seriousness, Miles Garrett heads to L.A., Picks and Jared Verse head to Cleveland. Do you like this deal for both sides, or is there a clear-cut winner and loser when it comes to a deal like this?

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No, I feel like the clear-cut winner is the Rams. I mean, Jared Virch, good player. Miles Garrett, a whole lot better player. So, I mean, the Rams' defense wasn't bad, and they've just done nothing. Weapons to that this offseason. I mean, it's pretty clear.

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They want to go after the Seahawks, and there's apparently nothing standing in their way of anything that they can do to accomplish that goal. We know that Les Snead, as has been discussed before, doesn't care about draft picks. And this trade once again proves that. So I think it's a great move for the Rams.

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I don't know what it means for the Browns because they're going to be terrible this year.

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Chapter 3: How do the recent trades impact the NFL landscape?

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They and the Dolphins, I mean, those two teams, do they play each other? Because if they do, I mean, that'll at least mean that they can't both go 0-17. Yeah. but they might give it a run. But I just have no confidence that the Rams will use those picks right, so they may just run this thing into the ground for a couple of years.

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121.433 - 139.692 Curtis Seabolt

Yeah, but I get that, and I get the idea that the Rams are the winner, but because there's a winner in a trade doesn't necessarily mean that the other team is the loser. The team that usually gets the star in a trade like this is the team that gets the most, but they're in a position to get the most.

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139.872 - 162.842 Curtis Seabolt

And if you're Cleveland and you just had a five-win season with the defensive player of the year, you can, you know, if he comes back or if they keep him, what's the thought that they're going to be any better this year, even if he replicates what he did a year ago? And at some point, don't you have to start putting together something for the years to come.

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163.002 - 184.933 Curtis Seabolt

To me, it's the money that Miles Garrett was going to make in Cleveland is wasted on a team that's not really equipped elsewhere. And they may not make the best of these picks, but at least they have them to make. They have a first and a second and a third to help rebuild this team over the next three years to where in 2029, they're a better team than they would have been otherwise.

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I mean, that's the theory.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Juju Smith-Schuster signing with the Giants?

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That's certainly one that the Browns are going to be working under is that they're going to be able to get good players with those picks. But, you know, I just have no faith in that because they, I mean, I mean, Miles Garrett was just basically handed to him on a silver platter.

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Unless the Browns end up just absolutely in the spot where they absolutely have to make the right pick because they're at a spot in the draft where it almost can't be avoided of picking the right player. Cleveland always seems to find a way to pick the wrong player. I just have no faith that with a late first and what did they get? Also a third, is it a second?

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224.1 - 228.726 Curtis Seabolt

They got a first, a second next year, and a third in 29. And Jared Verse.

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And I'm kind of reminded of a John Mulaney joke about, you know, Acquiring a draft pick for 2029, man, I feel like we're not even going to be drafting players in 2029. We'll be drinking moon juice with Jonathan Taylor Thomas rather than drafting players into the NFL. 2029 just seems forever away.

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247.705 - 256.955 Curtis Seabolt

But that's kind of where both the Browns are in, I think. I don't think they're ready to win this year. What do you think the alternative would be?

Chapter 5: What challenges does the Chiefs' wide receiver room face?

256.976 - 263.503 Curtis Seabolt

So if you're Cleveland, you don't make this trade and you sink or swim with Miles Garrett moving forward? No.

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Oh, I mean, that's a funny thing to me, Curtis, is that, I mean, I just have so little faith in Cleveland's ownership and organization. It doesn't matter. I mean, they're going to lose the trade no matter what because they're going to squander those resources.

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I mean, I don't think that, hey, I mean, the Rams could have given them all their picks for the next three years and then even told them who to draft. And I still feel like the Browns would have probably found a way to blow it. I just, I have no faith that the Browns will be able to parlay on top of these resources. And, hey, they may try and move some other players, too.

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I mean, maybe pick up even more, although I don't know who else that they have that they can move for more draft picks. But, yeah, I just don't have a lot of faith that they're going to restock the cupboard, so to speak. Yeah. I mean, let's face it.

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I mean, one of these teams is probably going to be picking the top five of the draft for the next five years, and I definitely don't think it's going to be the Rams.

Chapter 6: How does Rasheed Rice's situation affect the Chiefs' roster?

326.191 - 340.386 Jack Mahoney

Matt, I know we were joking a little bit earlier about Juju Smith-Schuster signing with the Giants, but I don't know about you. I thought that there was going to be a reunion because the Chiefs love bringing back guys that have been with the team for a couple years. They know the playbook.

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340.906 - 351.878 Jack Mahoney

And not to mention, Rasheed Rice is in jail right now, and they don't have a lot of money to go out there and get some of the top available wide receivers. Are you surprised that they've kind of sat on their hands and just –

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wait waited it out and probably might get somebody may not but that they've been not as active in trying to bring in a wide receiver in the news ever she writes not being available for this team i mean it's a it's kind of a double-edged sword i mean on the one hand i'm not surprised that they they haven't made a move because they really don't have the resources to make much of a move i mean

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even after they reworked the deal with George Karloftis last week and moved money around on his contract, they still don't have any salary cap room to maneuver. They will need to restructure another contract if they want to do that, and I'm not entirely convinced that they want to do that.

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I mean, the one thing that I thought was to hold up about potentially having a reunion with Juju was going to be that the Chiefs have pretty much shown this offseason that they are no longer running anything back. They did not bring essentially anybody back, by and large.

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I mean, there's a handful of guys, you know, young and expensive guys that they brought back, but by and large, if you're a veteran, if you're older, if you are probably on the south side of your career, you're in a declining portion of your career, Chiefs didn't want you back. I mean, they've let everybody go, and everybody walked us in those kind of scenarios, and

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And that was their plan, you know, going into this offseason was that, you know, barring anything, you know, catastrophe happening, that they wanted to get younger and cheaper and more athletic. And they really didn't want to clog up any roster spots with guys who were veterans.

Chapter 7: What are the Royals' recent performance statistics?

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you know, on the wrong side of 30. Juju was the one exception. I mean, he's still 29, although I think mileage-wise, you might say he's more like probably 32. You know, he just had been bending up. The knees are not great. They know exactly what kind of shape that they're in.

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So, I mean, you thought that, hey, maybe the latest with Rasheed Rice might prompt him to try a reunion with Juju because they know that he wouldn't require a a lot of orientation coming in. He could pop back in pretty quickly. And honestly, I mean, we don't know for sure that's going to work out with the Giants. So he could be available again down the road.

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That has certainly happened before with Juju. So I'm not surprised, but I am a little bit surprised that the Chiefs haven't reacted in some way to the Rishi Rice news, at least doing something. But I think it's part of their plan. I mean, I think that

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Chapter 8: What are the key issues facing the Royals this season?

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They definitely want – I think the one that they think they're going to have for She-Rice, if he's healthy, for most of the season. They feel the same way about Xavier Worthy and Tyquan Thornton, and they really like Cyrus Allen. I don't know that they're really super bullish on Jalen Royals, but they're going to give him a chance.

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And I feel like they've got a lot of other guys, too, that they can squeeze some juice out of. I'm not sure that they're going to be big players, but – They feel like that, hey, Chad O'Shea can get a little something out of these guys, and Patrick can maybe get a little something out of these guys. I'm not as confident, but she seems to be pretty confident.

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548.131 - 572.468 Jack Mahoney

Were you surprised to hear Andy Reid call Rasheed Rice's situation another, what did he call it, a life lesson or something along the lines of that? Because, I don't know, this guy has been given so many opportunities to clean up his act, stay out of trouble, and be the number one wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs, but here we are yet again talking about his unavailability, and

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572.448 - 584.708 Jack Mahoney

I thought it was even crazy to see on Twitter that last week when this team was speaking to the media, it was Rasheed Rice not here because he's in jail. Not many times you're going to see that, if ever, at the NFL level.

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585.229 - 598.59 Jack Mahoney

Is it more of a, it's a life lesson for him, we're going to keep him because we have no other choice, the wide receiver room isn't that strong, or is it they actually believe this is the wake-up call and you're not going to have to worry about it moving forward?

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Yeah, I'm not convinced that the Chiefs are naive enough to ever think that anything with Rasheed is ever going to be the wake-up call. I mean, they know him by now. They know that he just goes around through life a little bit differently than everybody else does. And it's a complicated situation. I mean, you could tell it, you know, This team likes Rasheed Rice. They get along with him.

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He's not a jerk. I mean, you know, if he was a jerk, it would be easy for these guys to just, like, cut him loose and not be supporting him. But he's their guy. And to a certain extent, he's the Chiefs guy, too. And, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt. There's obviously a few blemishes on that resume that – for, hey, some organizations, maybe that would have been the final straw.

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And here's the thing. I mean, if you have been with Rasheed Rice through everything that he has gone through in his career to this point, I mean, a THC test is not going to be the final straw. I mean, you've gone through much worse with Rasheed Rice than that. I mean, you knew he was going to be spending 30 days in jail anyway. So, you know, that almost is

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I mean, it's beside the point at this point. You knew that was going to happen. You didn't want it to necessarily be this way. But, hey, they knew what they were getting in this year. And they have kind of, you know, the die has been cast a little bit with Rasheed.

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