Chapter 1: What are the main topics discussed with Sam McDowell?
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Welcome back into the program. I'm Todd Lebo. So happy to be joined now by our good friend Sam McDowell of the Kansas City Star. How you doing, buddy?
You didn't have to read that part, did you?
No.
Because you were glossing over a computer screen.
I was just looking around.
You've got to get that part down.
No, I knew who you are and what you're all about. It's just good to see you.
It's always just terrific to see you, yeah. I've been looking forward to this all day.
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Chapter 2: How does Sam McDowell assess the current state of the Royals?
mad about anything about how they handled doing that they just didn't win the game and that happens a lot with teams who just are under talented right they just don't win those games yeah i mean first of all i think both of those critiques are valid though i mean sure i mean when you're up by a run already i i certainly understand the incentive to try to make it to
I think when you're up a run and it's guaranteed to have at least that margin going into the ninth inning, the first priority needs to be protecting the lead as opposed to expanding on it. And so I honestly, I would have let Finney in the game for that reason. I'm not saying that's the reason they lost the game, although I do think he makes that play at first base.
That ball's only hit 88 miles an hour. It was not scorched. So I think that's a valid complaint. I don't think that is a fireable offense. I think that is a 60-40 decision, not a 110 or even a 100-0 or even a 90-10 decision. And the same goes with Lucas Ursa. I mean, first of all, Daniel Lynch had only thrown eight pitches. You're also asking him to do something he hadn't done.
Yeah, he doesn't get up and down.
Yeah, I mean, so that is more significant that the eight pitches is the up-down part of the equation. But also, I mean, Lucas had thrown 30-some pitches. But the flip side of this is he threw well yesterday. He has not thrown great this year. He threw well yesterday. He broke a bat. So the absolute softest ball hit yesterday was the first single that he gave up of anybody.
I don't mean softest hit. I mean softest contact that any batter made yesterday was Paul Goldschmidt hitting the ball 35 miles an hour. And even like the ā it's just like ā When you read the line score of that, it's like almost deceitful is the way I phrase it. It says, Paul Goldschmidt singles on a pop-up to shortstop. You can't even describe what happened.
They should put that in that the bat was broken. I mean, yeah, he winds up with like...
half a foot of his back left. And the last hit he gives up, which didn't add to a run, but it was a dribbler down the third baseline, that was the second softest hit ball all day. That was like 36 miles an hour. So you had a 35 and 36 mile an hour hit. The next softest contact of the entire day was like 67 miles per hour. That's how soft that contact was that he got twice.
And one of them sets up the whole inning. It's the reason that the whole ā and like I said, even the Jazz Chisholm one, which should be a hit, it's about a 50-50 hit. Even that ball's hit like 88 miles an hour. It's not hit 100 miles an hour. It's not like it's scorched. And I think there's symbolism with where the Royals are, though.
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Chapter 3: What specific issues are affecting the Royals' performance this season?
I don't know if I'd say way more talented. They're plenty more talented. I don't know. We don't need to parse those words on that. But they're more talented. And they're playing better, generally, than the Royals. And I know they haven't been as hot lately. But there's a mental thing somehow with this team and the Yankees.
The Yankees have beaten, like, two teams over .500 all year. They beat the Royals.
Well, the Royals aren't one of the teams. I know because they're not over 500. Well, that was my point, too. I had some people texting me, like, they just blow these leads and all this stuff. And I'm like, they haven't blown 30 leads. They've blown like eight or nine. But we remember all of them because they don't win any games.
Well, they do have the second worst winning percentage of win, the situation of win leading after the eighth inning. They've got the second worst winning percentage of baseball this year. Now, that equates to four losses.
Yeah, if they won every one of those, would they be ā Five games under 500?
I mean, it's not like they would... Well, in the American League, they were in the wild card spot. They were undefeated in that situation. There's only one team that's undefeated in that situation. I think the Dodgers are undefeated in that spot.
And they probably haven't had 400 of those games either because they're generally just beating people. Yeah. You know, and they don't blow the games.
Well, you know, it caused me today, the last couple days, I looked more in-depth at Lucas Erceg's season. I just think it's, like, really symbolic of the Royals' season. So last year he had a 2.64 ERA. This year he's got a 5.06 ERA. So on the face of it, he's having a really different season than he did a year ago.
This year, because, like, the night or the afternoon that he had yesterday is not atypical of what he's gone through this season. His expected ERA, which expected ERA is, you know, a metric that's based on, like, exit. It's all contact, the quality of contact. So it's, like, exit velo, your launch angle.
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Chapter 4: Why is Lucas Erceg's performance symbolic of the Royals' season?
And by the way, the further metrics, I mean, his expected batting average against is slightly better this year. His expected slugging percentage against this year is significantly better this year, 328 as opposed to 388 last year.
And that's why I say I think there's some symbolism with the Royals season of like we expected the Royals to be a lot better and the results have been different in the process.
Even something that more people have heard of, the FIP thing, is that way. Last year, 3.49 with a 2.64 ERA. This year, it's lower. It's 3.12. I just had that a second ago. 3.21 with a 5.06. His FIP is lower this year than it was a year ago. And yet his ERA is two and a half runs higher.
Yeah. And when you look into it, I mean, so like last year he was in the top 15 percentile of luck. This year he's in the bottom 10 percentile. So it's really flipped.
Yesterday was just like, hey, let's put all that into one inning.
Yeah. There you go. You could actually see after the dribbler down the line yesterday that he smirked. And I think his thought in his mind is like, this again. Here he comes. And that's the funny part of baseball, of course. Now, there are some things that Lucas Ursae does have within his control that he's not done well. He's not throwing first pitch strikes at the same rate.
And then guys are swinging at first pitches, too. And it seems to me like they're sitting on pitches and just, like, spitting on the off-speed stuff and swinging at fastball. So, like, you think, okay, you just... Like, when he gets behind in counts, he's struggling this year. I mean, his... That's what was so encouraging yesterday.
Got the quick out. You know, once he got the quick out, I'm like, everything's going, he breaks the bat, and you're like, ugh. Great pitch, yeah. Yeah. And so, and listen, I... You don't root for people or whatever when we do our job. But I like his story. I like where he has fixed his life and he's found this. And he seems like I've just chatted with him out there before, not just interviewing.
And, you know, we were talking about. You know, remember he had the thing out in West Coast where he cursed. Right. And they turned it into a shirt. Right. I mean, you know, Charlie Hustle made a shirt and all this stuff. And and I was talking to him and they'd had him for a couple of days.
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Chapter 5: What insights does Sam provide about player management and decisions?
They don't actually have a cuss word on them. It's stylized or whatever. And we were kind of joking about how. You know, there were a couple people on social media who didn't like that he had cursed on the TV and it got out there or whatever, but it wasn't much.
But I was just talking to him about him, particularly about social media, and he's seen some terrible things on social media because people don't usually say, hey, great job. It's always the other stuff. And with everything he's gone through, getting sober and cleaning his life up and all that stuff, and just seeing that kind of stuff from people you don't even know, I mean...
We get enough of that crap just from people who listen or read or whatever. But when you're on that stage, I'm like, he's just someone I root for to have the good luck. And I hope he is able to just... put the next day out there. And this team has been good at flushing the day, going to the next one. But that gets harder and harder to do when these bad luck things and just bad baseball add up.
Because the one thing, we talked about the differences in some of the other ancillary numbers, but the one thing you can look at and go, that's a tangible difference is the base runners.
whip of 1174 last year 1688 this year and a lot of it is is the walks he's doubled his walk rate from a year ago more than doubled hits up a little bit but he's gone from 2.6 to 5.5 per nine if you're hurting yourself with walks you need a little good luck well that's what i was going to say like what what factors into that is like he's getting behind in counts now he's not throwing strike one he's throwing ball one often on on the first pitch and
So when he gets behind 1-0 in the count, he's given up a 4-10 on base percentage this year. 4-10 on base percentage when he's behind 1-0. Bad for a closer. Bad for anybody. A year ago, it was 3-10 when he got behind 1-0. He's not coming from behind in counts. I think because he's seen some guys swing at the fastball more, his four-seamers getting hit harder than it did a year ago.
I think when he falls behind, he's sort of searching for answers. Like, okay, my fastball's been hit more. You don't typically throw backwards. I mean, his slider's more of a wipeout pitch than it is throw for strike. He certainly can throw for strike. It's a good slider. But it's not the first purpose of that pitch. And so that's why it's becoming more and more important for him.
to get ahead in counts. Now, the odd part is yesterday he did. He got ahead in counts, but that's also, I think, why he created soft contact.
It's also just one of the pitfalls of a closer who doesn't strike guys out. The Royals had two of those guys. I mean, in an era where almost everyone seems to have someone who can strike out 10 or 11 people per nine. he's at 7'6", and the guy he was replacing wasn't much better than that, but he at least was a veteran at that situation.
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Chapter 6: How does Sam view the Royals' strategy against more talented teams?
No. No hesitation.
Because he is their closer.
And he hadn't pitched in a week before Sunday.
You think the Royals will need him tonight with the matchup? Probably not.
They could. That's why you play the game. You can. You've got to play the games this way. Curtis and I are rarely out there together because your night is Tuesday.
I'll actually be out there.
You're going out.
There we go. Tuesday is a tough night, as you know. The guy usually sits in your chair, and I have a podcast on Tuesdays, but I'll be out there tonight. To your point, I mean... The slogan that they've had for... I just saw the matchup.
You don't love it? That's not good.
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Chapter 7: What impact does social media have on players according to Sam?
So everything seemed to kind of, as you said, kind of felt like the wind was at their backs.
Well, they've had a wonderful attitude. You go out there after they win or they lose, and it's like, they win, this doesn't matter, we've got a game tomorrow. If they lose, this stinks, got a game tomorrow. But the more you have the losses, the harder it is to not have that pile up. So we'll see. That was a tough one, though.
Yeah, and, I mean, look, I mean, I'm always interested in the data. So, I mean, how much does that attitude reflect what you do the next day? I think it's still in question, especially for a team that is sitting where the Royals are right now. Like how much has that assisted in this? I mean, what would the Royals record be if they got pissed off when they lose, for example?
I mean, would they be that much worse this year? I mean, So I think that, like I said, it's a neat thing whenever it's working. And when it's not, you get tested. And that is the reason you fall back on the processes that you continue to use to not try and make too much out of each individual instance.
And you can't really get out of character either. I mean, it would be weird if they just all of a sudden ā there's such process ā daily guys. It would be weird if all of a sudden you go in there and Bobby Witt was smashing trash cans or something.
That's just not within his personality. It's not within the manager's personality either. I remember being out there on Friday as well and that was what... Five in a row on Friday?
Yeah, 2-0. No, didn't scare third base even.
And, you know, I mean, even in the postgame, I asked Q, I said, is this frustrating? Because to your point, Todd, like it doesn't come across when you talk to him.
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Chapter 8: What are the upcoming challenges for the Chiefs as discussed by Sam?
And it absolutely is. I mean, there's no debate that it is. There's no debate that these guys ā Just because they don't show it doesn't mean they're more okay with losing than somebody else. I think that's something that's been misinterpreted this year. But at the same time, it's like, but what are you feeling? Because so much concentration is on the next day that I do think...
The fans who live and die with this team would like to know that this is bothersome.
We're around these guys all the time. On Wednesday, I asked, I mean, like, sometimes people go flip a table. I mean, that's just, he's like, well, what good would I do if I flipped a table?
I said, I guess, I mean, I don't know. Is that going to cause, you know, help us to win games?
I was going to ask him if he was going to get in a unicycle and go through the shower like Trey Hillman did or something like that. But, you know, I like him. I think he's good at the job. I just don't think they have enough guys playing well enough right now, you know? No, they don't. Perhaps they could have spent a bunch of money on Juan Soto, but they weren't doing that either.
They should be playing better. They should be hitting better than what they are. I mean, Salve's gotten a few hits here, and I thought Vinny hit the ball well Friday. He looked like he got the middle day off. I thought he hit the ball hard and a little bad luck on the one up the middle, and he drew a walk. I mean, it was like...
It doesn't look like it's really kept going right now, but they need him to be way better than he's been.
Yeah, and I have comments that I wrote last week about the fact that I thought they actually switched. I hate talking about the order of a lineup because the analytics showed it has minimal, not great effect, but also not zero. But this is a team that I thought should have switched it up. I mean, one, I think... There's a few reasons for it.
One is because I think when you talk to Vinny, he seems like someone who's going through it. Nobody in that locker room is harder on themselves when they're not playing well. It wears on him and that doesn't mean he's lost confidence, doesn't mean he thinks he sucks. It just means that. It bothers him when he does not come through with the team. He's a team-oriented person.
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