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The Rachel Maddow Show

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12 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the purpose of the podcast 'Clock It'?

1.195 - 2.879 Eugene Daniels

Hey, y'all. It's Eugene Daniels.

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3.159 - 4.622 Symone Sanders Townsend

And Simone Sanders-Townsend.

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4.642 - 8.55 Eugene Daniels

We're the hosts of a brand new podcast, MS Now Presents Clock It.

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8.711 - 13.481 Symone Sanders Townsend

We're starting this show because over our years in D.C., me on campaigns and working in the White House.

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13.601 - 17.449 Eugene Daniels

And me covering it all, plus running the White House Correspondents Association.

17.429 - 22.875 Symone Sanders Townsend

We've learned to see through political machinations and maneuvering, whatever that is, right, Eugene?

22.895 - 30.043 Eugene Daniels

Uh-huh, because right now we're watching the Trump administration try to legitimize itself by hijacking the arts, sports, basically the culture.

30.383 - 39.873 Symone Sanders Townsend

See, slapping Trump's name on the Kennedy Center, dispatching ice to the Super Bowl, uploading TikToks set to Nicki Minaj songs. It looks trivial, but this stuff matters.

40.133 - 45.259 Eugene Daniels

So we want to open up our off-air conversations, our group chat, if you will, to everybody.

Chapter 2: How does culture influence politics in the current climate?

102.164 - 106.13 Eugene Daniels

Like James Tallarico, he's much more, you know, his demeanor's calmer.

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106.19 - 125.888 Unknown

I got into this because of my students. I got into the classroom in the fall of 2011, right after the state legislature cut $5 billion from our schools. I had 45 kids in one classroom. There weren't enough desks for all those kids, so I had students sitting on the air conditioning unit. It's unacceptable. And that's why I ran for the state legislature.

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125.908 - 129.733 Unknown

It's why I flipped a Trump district that no one thought was winnable.

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130.094 - 139.567 Eugene Daniels

And you have someone like Congresswoman Crockett. And she is much more, I think, like a lot of members of Congress that are Democrats, much more in your face.

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139.687 - 149.901 Unknown

They're killing people in the middle of the street. They decided to execute a mother of three in broad daylight. I don't understand how we are sitting here and acting like this is normal.

150.067 - 155.997 Eugene Daniels

Right. She's much more clear and concise. She seems much more ready maybe to fight Donald Trump the way Donald Trump fights.

156.017 - 172.665 Symone Sanders Townsend

Some would call her unconventional. Some reports have called her and her campaign unconventional. This recently, recently, OK, there was a controversy that popped off on the Internet. The fact that in 2026 campaigns are being and races are being appended by what happens on threads.

172.846 - 172.986 Myles Frost

Mm hmm.

172.966 - 186.126 Symone Sanders Townsend

I don't know if this was a scheme that Todd set up to encourage people to sign up for threads. Todd is busy, child. But if you weren't on threads, you were not understanding where this came from.

Chapter 3: What insights do Tony Goldwyn and Myles Frost provide on political art?

276.917 - 277.477 Eugene Daniels

So what does that tell you?

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277.497 - 296.022 Symone Sanders Townsend

Well, because Jasmine Crockett came in and kind of like, to be honest, big-footed him out of the race. And there were concerns. I mean, if you talk to Democrats in Texas, like strategists and whatnot, and people that do campaign work, there was a concern about the kind of campaign Colin Allred ran the last time he ran for Senate. When he lost?

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296.002 - 313.558 Symone Sanders Townsend

when he lost, and Democrats do believe that this is an opportunity, that this is one of the seats that they can take. Like Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, they are talking about expanding the map. So I just don't think it is ever okay, though. Like, yeah, was his campaign, was he running a mediocre campaign?

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313.578 - 313.818 Unknown

Sure.

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Chapter 4: What are the implications of cuts to The Washington Post for democracy?

314.158 - 324.427 Symone Sanders Townsend

Should the white man be talking about another elected official and feel comfortable calling him a mediocre Black man? No. And trying to pump up a Black lady? Hell no.

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324.487 - 325.468 Eugene Daniels

That's crazy. It makes no sense.

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326.984 - 330.582 Symone Sanders Townsend

Thanks for listening. For more, search Clock It and follow the show.

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336.113 - 366.002 Myles Frost

Pulta!

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