Gideon talks to Karin von Hippel, director-general of the UK defence think-tank RUSI, about Ukraine’s counteroffensive and the discussions that are already taking place about a new world order once the fighting is over. Clips: Channel 4 NewsMore on this topic:Military briefing: Ukrainian troops make early gains against ‘well-prepared’ RussiansGermany’s first-ever security strategy names Russia as ‘greatest threat’ to peaceWestern allies plan to provide long-term security assurances to UkraineMilitary briefing: Russia has most to gain from Ukrainian dam breachSubscribe to The Rachman Review wherever you get your podcasts - please listen, rate and subscribe.Presented by Gideon Rachman. Produced by Fiona Symon. Sound design is by Breen TurnerRead a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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