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The Ramsey Show

A Financial Plan Only Works If It Matches Your Reality

25 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 18.968 Dave Ramsey

Hey, before we get rolling, listen up. If you want to win with money in 2026, you can't keep living normal. Normal's broke. You need a plan. Get a personalized plan and start living like no one else by downloading our EveryDollar app today.

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30.338 - 35.926 Ken Coleman

Normal is broken. Common sense is weird. So we're here to help you transform your life.

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Chapter 2: How can I tackle my $1M debt with my fiancé?

36.527 - 64.678 Ken Coleman

From the Ramsey Network in the Fairwinds Credit Union Studio, this is the Ramsey Show alongside the fabulous Jade Warshaw. I'm Ken Coleman. The phone number is 888-825-5225. 888-825-5225. All right, we're going to get to your call. It's coming up very soon. Really fun story from my colleague here. You may know her journey. She and Sam are hubs. Paid off half a million dollars in debt.

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65.098 - 82.317 Ken Coleman

She gets you, folks. You're in debt. She gets you. She really does. Fun story I asked her to share. I've gotten to know her and Sam very well. And so that's coming up. You don't want to miss that. Those of you who are kind of on that edge today, you're going, can I do this? Can I make it? You can make it. She's going to tell you how. It's going to be fun.

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82.698 - 87.683 Ken Coleman

But first, Jack is up in Indianapolis, Indiana. Jack, how can we help today?

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87.663 - 102.16 Unknown

Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my call. I bought a RV for $60,000 on a 15-year loan at 18% interest.

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103.842 - 104.883 Jade Warshaw

Wow. Why'd you do that?

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I'm realizing how bad of a decision it was. It was to live in, to save up. eventually for a house. Um, and, uh, I'm realizing like how the interest is, um, 800 a month on just interest. My goodness. Only 50 bucks goes to the principal and I'm realizing it'll be like 16 months before I even scratched the surface under what I borrowed.

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So, uh, I was wondering, cause obviously I want to get out of it now. Um, I started the baby steps. Um, all I had was like a, like a thousand personal loan, 2000 personal loan. I had some student loans. Um, I had some credit cards, but, uh, I, I only made 2000 a month when I bought it. So I don't even know how I got approved for it. Right. But, um, I went one by one and, uh,

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I got rid of everything except for the camper. My income is about $4,000 a month now. Okay. Where are you living? I got a job as a truck driver, so in the truck.

187.718 - 189.492 Jade Warshaw

Okay. Okay. Okay.

Chapter 3: What steps should I take to manage my RV loan?

231.461 - 236.349 Jade Warshaw

Oh, lordy. But what if you were to sell at private sale? Have you looked into that?

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I have it listed for $38. And I've been trying to call the show for a couple months now. So I owe...

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245.292 - 269.595 Jade Warshaw

uh 48 uh 8 on it now you owe 48 on it now and you could sell it for 31 38 it's got a list to that so you're a 10 it's a 10 000 deficit there what keeps you from going down to a credit union or going down to a bank or getting any kind of loan to to clear this out why don't we do that

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I canceled my credit cards when I removed them, and it brought my credit score down pretty low.

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278.098 - 301.542 Jade Warshaw

What about a credit union? Have you gone into a bank to see? Because at this point, here's my thinking on this. My rationale is there's not a worse loan than the one you have, and you're going down. You're going from $48,000 of debt to $10,000 of debt. I'm going to take that deal every time, even if the terms aren't great. Well, yeah, because you're going to knock it out.

301.863 - 306.83 Jade Warshaw

You make four thousand bucks a month. You knocked out the other debt. Why can't you knock out this ten thousand dollars of debt very quickly?

308.272 - 316.844 Unknown

That's true. I was because I was trying to rent it as well to see if I could try to get money out of it.

317.886 - 328 Jade Warshaw

But every moment you wait, it's dropping in value because because you're in such a bad loan. Right. The interest alone is eight hundred dollars a month. So you got time is not on your side, my friend.

328.553 - 343.761 Ken Coleman

Listen, we're coming to you from the Fairwinds Credit Union Studio. I'd call our friends at Fairwinds and say, hey, I was just on the show with Jade and Ken, and here's my situation. And I've made progress. Will you guys help me out? And if they can help you out, they will.

Chapter 4: What is the significance of having an emergency fund?

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So what's the lesson for everybody else?

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Don't get the dealership markups. Don't get the warranty stuff. Don't buy new. Ask someone older than you. I haven't. Yeah, I'm definitely not doing that anymore. How old are you, Jack? I just turned 20. 20 years of age.

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462.23 - 464.694 Jade Warshaw

You learned a great lesson at a young age, my friend.

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465.054 - 468.519 Unknown

That's awesome. I wish it didn't cost $60,000. Yeah.

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468.64 - 492.559 Jade Warshaw

That's all right, but it's a good lesson to learn. Hey, no one gets that. Not no one. Few people get out unscathed when you walk into the real world, right? You get out of college. You start your life as an adult. Few, Jack, get out of this without making major mistakes. That's how we learn. And for you, I want you to look at this. Don't look at it as, oh my gosh, my mistake, I ruined my life.

492.579 - 505.508 Jade Warshaw

Just look at it as some research you did. You did a little bit of research and you found out that buying an RV to live in or buying anything that goes down in value is not a good idea. Now you can stick that in your pocket and keep it as a knowledge base for later.

505.758 - 517.372 Ken Coleman

Yeah, I love it. Makes me think of the old song. What? By Ray Charles. Hit the road, Jack, and don't you come back no more, no more, no more. Hit the road, Jack. That's what he's saying to Debt.

517.933 - 519.134 Jade Warshaw

That's good. Yeah, come on.

519.455 - 524.701 Ken Coleman

You know, sometimes I think of these old school things. Now, if Rachel were next to me, she'd have no idea what I'm talking about.

Chapter 5: How can differing money perspectives impact relationships?

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And you mentioned love goggles, let's just talk about money goggles. Okay. If the two sets of goggles and the way you see money are so different, it literally can cause chaos in your relationship. True or false? Is that too strong of a statement?

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3721.62 - 3723.223 Jade Warshaw

No, I think that's exactly right.

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How does it cause chaos?

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3724.445 - 3737.825 Jade Warshaw

Well, you know, think about it. One is, let's filter it through the question. She is a person obviously a little bit more frugal. She sounds like she's debt averse. She sounds like she understands the value of keeping your income every month.

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Chapter 6: What steps should couples take to align their financial beliefs?

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And that might be because all of that belief is because of how she's experienced the world up until this point. And then he's the opposite. I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I'm just saying that his beliefs are based on how he's experienced the world up until this point. And when you want somebody to change what they believe based on how they've experienced the world, that is a hard fought fight.

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3762.069 - 3768.579 Jade Warshaw

Yeah. It's their default mode. It's their default mode. So it's not just as simple as, well, change.

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Chapter 7: What are the key questions to ask about financial issues in a relationship?

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Well, I got to go back in and I got to figure out how do I feel about this? And what does that mean about me? Because I've always operated like this because of this. So it's not just a surface level request. That's right. Hey, I don't want to use debt anymore. Oh, okay, no problem. Like it's never that. These are, and that's why I say when it comes to these money issues, we do say can...

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3789.97 - 3798.401 Jade Warshaw

Sometimes it might sound a little bit flippant. Get on the same page with your money. And the point is, it's not a light switch that you just flip up or flip down one day.

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3798.541 - 3799.662 Ken Coleman

It's a journey. I agree.

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Chapter 8: How can newlyweds manage their finances effectively?

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And I would say on all of those issues, I think all those issues should come up in premarital counseling. Can I just put that out there? But I certainly believe money ought to. Just press pause. Don't get married until you get on the same page with this stuff. I think you save yourself a ton of stress. And everything else, my goodness, it's that important. So just a little relationship thing.

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3820.211 - 3834.439 Ken Coleman

We talk about this. Relationships and money, folks, you just cannot untie those. They are tied together whether you like it or not. Sweet. So really good stuff. All right. Quick break. Don't move. More calls. They're all lined up, folks. We're going to get to them. This is The Ramsey Show.

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3888.527 - 3924.231 Ken Coleman

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3951.835 - 3961.725 Jade Warshaw

Alrighty then, you have to turn your microphone on. That's how that works. You do. Okay. Today's question comes from Tyrone in New Jersey. He says, I work for a small company with less than 20 employees.

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Recently, I discovered that while my employer has been taking deductions from my check for my 401k, they had been holding the money and making a few small deposits into my account throughout the year. And then one larger deposit at the end of the year. Huh? I confronted my employer and their only response was that they were sorry. Does this sound legal or unethical?

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And is it time to seek new employment?

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