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Chapter 1: How can I find support while on the Baby Steps?
Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the Pods Moving and Storage Studio, it's The Ramsey Show, where we hang out to have a conversation about your life and your money, the things that are concerning you. I'm your host, Jade Warshaw, joined by Rachel Cruz, who is also host of The Rachel Cruz Show. and Smart Money Happy Hour. And the list just goes on and on and on.
It's really great. But you can give us a call today and we will give you our input, our advice, what we would do if we were in your shoes. So give us a call. The number is 888-825-5225 and we will take your call. In the meantime, let's go to Michael in Mobile, Alabama. What's going on, Michael?
Chapter 2: What does it mean to be gazelle intense in financial planning?
Good afternoon, ladies. How y'all doing?
Doing good. How are you?
I'm doing great. So me and my wife have recently started FPU, and we're on baby step number two. And there's been a lot of excitement, you know, seeing the snowball, you know, rolling down the hill, paying debts off. And the question I have is when we reach out to friends and family, you know, just telling them, hey, this is what we're doing, and, you know, this is what it's doing in our lives.
We get a lot of negativity, and I was just curious, you know, why people are so negative about stuff like this. And then also, how can we build a support group, you know, with like-minded people that, you know, have shared our journey and can encourage us and us encouraging them?
Yeah. Um, number one, I'm I'm really proud of you guys for taking control of your situation. I mean, you mentioned that you're in Financial Peace University, which is our course for getting control of your money and you're in baby step to paying off this debt. So I'm really proud of you guys. And yeah, a lot of people when they're in that phase, they they are met, you know, with some opposition.
It's like you're sharing this journey. You're hoping that you're going to get the support. of your family and friends. And sometimes you do. And sometimes you do later on down the line.
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Chapter 3: Which job should I take for better financial stability?
But, you know, to your point, I think sometimes what happens, Michael, is at least what I found is sometimes when you make the strides to better yourself in any area, it could be health and wellness. It could be financially, spiritually. it has the tendency to become a mirror for other people. And when you're saying, oh, I'm on a budget, I'm making smart choices with my money.
Yes, it would be great if people said, good for you. I'm proud of you. Way to go. Way to be a responsible adult. But instead, it kind of holds up that mirror to them. And maybe, not in every case, but maybe they are starting to see, oh,
Chapter 4: How do I balance a high-paying job with work-life balance?
I like I should do better with my finances and I should be, you know, and they start to run through this checklist in their mind and it maybe kind of makes them feel bad or guilty or weird. And sometimes that comes out as a little bit of haterade. You know what I'm saying? It comes out a little bit like, oh, really? You know, well, good luck with that.
You know, and they get a little funky fresh, but. I want to encourage you that as you go through this, I bet you you'll start to see that change because they're going to start to see the fruit that it's having in your life. They're going to start to see those wonderful outcomes from what you're doing. And the smart folks are going to start asking you how you did it.
Yeah, and I think, Michael, too, regardless of what they're saying, which I know this is easier said than done, there's a confidence that you and your wife have to have in each other and in this process that you just say, okay, we're choosing to make these decisions regardless of what people think or not. We're choosing to do this.
And I think Jade made a good point, too, that it can be a mirror for other people.
But also, Michael, I've learned when you get healthier in a part of your life, whether it's you're doing therapy and it's the emotional side, if it's in your money and you're actually making progress there and in control, whether it's wellness and you're actually watching what you're eating and thinking about taking care of your body, whatever the thing is, or your marriage and you're working really hardcore in your marriage, whatever the season of life that you're getting healthier in
And it can start to feel lonely because there are a lot of people that don't do the work on themselves. And so it starts to even magnify the other unhealth around you. So when you're on this, you're like, oh, I never... would have thought about people using credit cards or taking out car loans.
But now that you're in it and you're trying to get out and you're working so hard when someone says, I got a car loan, it's going to feel bigger to you. And it's probably going to magnify a little bit more to you because of what you're walking through. So that's on more of your side than the other people.
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Chapter 5: What strategies can I use to get my finances back on track?
But I think regardless of what the other people are saying or doing, you have to, I think finding that community is really key. And this sounds so cheesy because we always say, your Facebook friends aren't your real friends, but there's like the baby steps community on Facebook.
Like there's people all around the internet, you know, may not be next door to you physically, but there's so much support that I have found with people, you know, whether it's on Facebook or Instagram that are part of these groups, or if you're in an FPU class and it's your class that you're talking to, like even on this show, like listening to this show and hearing that there's other people doing what you're doing.
Yes. It's just encouragement. So, So whether it's community that you find, which would be ideal in person, that it's actual friends maybe walking the journey with you, that's an ideal situation. But even if you don't find that, you can find people all over the place doing this stuff. So I would encourage you guys because you're not alone in it. So I don't want you to feel isolated either.
Yeah. And stick it out because... Sometimes if you let those voices carry too much weight, you can let them shift you off course. And I've seen that happen sometimes. It's like, oh, well, I've been on the plan for a while. And you kind of get comfortable. And then whoever it is just keeps chatting in your ear about why it's good to have a credit card for the points.
And before you know it, you're like, oh, maybe I should. So just...
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Chapter 6: How can I build a supportive community for my financial journey?
stand strong and like be firm in what you've decided and just understand that sometimes when people are negative, it probably has nothing to do, it actually has zero to do with you and way more to do about whatever is going on in their life.
And there's probably, you know, because money too, Michael, as you probably know,
creates a lot of insecurity a lot of fear like it's not a very happy topic for a lot of people which we hate that's why we do this show because we're like we want to spread hope and help people have the opposite effect when it comes to their money but um as you guys start to gain traction like jade said i think for a lot of people that can be um it can stir up a lot of their own fear and security too what do you think michael does that hit you right
Yes, ma'am, I did. And the whole reason that me and my wife started FPU was because, you know, my best friend, him and his wife had went through it and, you know, they paid off all their debts and their house. And we got to talking one day and he's like, I'm going to gift you a free year of Ramsey Plus FPU. And I was like, really? He's like, yeah.
He's like, I've been wanting to do this for a year. He's like, but I've never found that right person to give it to. He's like, you know, all the people I know, they're not going to take it serious. And he's like, I want somebody to really use this. And he's like, I feel like you and your wife will. So that's how we got started with it. And I'm really appreciative to him for that.
We just started a month ago and the momentum is just incredible.
Yes. Love to hear it. I love that, Michael. And I'm tempted.
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Chapter 7: What should I do if I'm facing negativity from friends and family?
I'm going to do this. I want Austin to pick up because, Michael, I want to gift you. I get a gift card because we have like the live and give bundle or we have the ability to get you a gift card. For you, Michael, then to pass on what your friend did to you. So I want you to hold on to this. I want you guys to get through FPU from that gift from your friend.
And then when you guys finish and graduate, I want you as a couple to find another couple and do that with and keep that keep that chain moving. George hates a generosity chain at Starbucks, but I'm doing one for FPU right now.
Well, as long as you don't make it creepy and be like, don't break the chain. If you break the chain, something evil is going to happen. As long as you just do it nicely and say, hey, man, pass it on. That's how you do a generosity chain. Not in weird, creepy, pseudo-religious ways. Just be nice. Pass it on. This is The Ramsey Show. Hey, what's going on, guys?
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Chapter 8: How can I effectively manage my debt and expenses?
We're taking calls about your life, your financial situation. Although I'll be honest, the word financial, sometimes it feels a little like highbrow. Yeah. Yes. Highbrow, Rachel. I like the word money. Money feels like everybody's got it. It's it's it's accessible. So if you want to talk about your money, we will talk about it. Triple eight, eight to five, five to five.
And that's what we do on the show. And while I'm talking about that, I really want to encourage if you listen to this show regularly or if you just recently found it and you're like, this show is the business. I want to tell my friends about it. Please do that. Tell your friends that you love this show. Share an episode with them.
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We're going to do what we do anyway. But like, subscribe and share the show. All right. Rachel, I kind of want to talk about something here. And that is this idea of we call it gazelle intensity. Yeah. OK, so if you're listening for the first time, you're probably like, what the heck is that? Explain, please.
Now, obviously, you can go and get more information by going to RamseySolutions.com, clicking that Get Started button, because we have all this lingo and terminology around here. And whenever we're talking about baby step two, which is paying off all your debt, smallest to largest, using the debt snowball. All right. That's a crux of all the things that we do around here.
But we talk about this concept of being gazelle-intense. And there's more behind that that I feel like is necessary to unpack because the way this plan works, it is contingent on you doing all of the steps and you doing the steps the way that we're teaching it, right?
Because part of paying off your debt, we might tell you, hey, pause retirement temporarily so you can get that money back, so you can have more money to pay off this debt quickly. But if you're out here lollygagging around and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to pay off my debt. I'm pausing my retirement. I'm paying off my debt, but you know, a little here and there.
And I'm just, I mean, you could mess around and this thing could take you a decade and you've paused your retirement for a decade. That's not what we're saying. What we're saying is we want you to go as intense as possible. And the way your dad, Dave Ramsey has always explained it is a cheetah chasing a gazelle, right? right, in the wilderness, right? And that gazelle is like, cheetah!
And he's running and he's trying to get away from it. And the cheetah is dead, right? The cheetah is trying to eat your butt. And so you've got to get away from that. So that's one of the reasons we say gazelle intensity.
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