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Chapter 1: What should I do if I'm in debt and just lost my job?
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They're bringing the sunshine today, John. They are bringing the sunshine. What a great way to start the show, George. Thanks for that, man. Thanks, best friend. You're welcome, bester friend. Let's go to Alex in New York, New York, New York, New York. What's up, Alex? Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my call. You got it, man. What's happening?
Hi. So I am currently in $24,000 a bet, and I just lost my job.
Ah, man. What were you doing?
I have been working as a server and barista. Additionally, I am an actor. I am currently in school, so a lot of my jobs, like what we call survival jobs, are in the service industry.
Excellent. So is there a chance that losing your job has set you free?
Yeah, I mean, yeah. In terms of, like, the place I was at, it was poorly managed and whatnot, which also gives me opportunity to move forward, but it does put me back behind quite a bit.
My wife is also affected by the ongoing writer's strike right now, so I'm just trying to do my part as her husband to also, like, be there for her, especially when it comes to financial needs, but I'm just falling behind.
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Chapter 2: How can I manage a money pit house effectively?
You're already there because you're angry at this situation. What we need to focus on right now is you guys are in storm mode. We got to cover the bills. Your wife has no income coming in right now, or does she still have something?
She's about to start nannying for the time being until this whole thing's resolved. It's just hard to say when. The last one was 100 days. This one could be longer. Hopefully not.
I think this one's going to be longer, Alex, personally. Let's pretend it's going to be a few months. Absolutely. And so what do you need to cover your food, utilities, housing, transportation? Have you figured out what those expenses are?
Yeah, so my wife is supporting me as well with my debt journey, so she hears me talk about the rice and beans, beans and rice quite a bit.
Hold on, you're saying she's supporting your journey. Is this not y'all's journey as a couple?
We support each other, of course. A lot of this debt is just strictly mine from my bad habits that, again, I've had the realization that I want to destroy those as well. I'll just spend, spend, spend.
Well, I'm wondering if this process would speed up exponentially if you guys decided this is our debt. We're going to tackle this as a team. It's not Alex's debt. It's our debt. And I understand that it's his fault, but it's our responsibility now as a couple. Have you had that conversation with her?
We have not. I guess just me being me, I've tried to keep her out of it. But that's you know, actually something that I'd be willing to explore as well.
Good.
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Chapter 3: What are the pros and cons of accepting student loan forgiveness?
Y'all aren't doing anything else. That was a low dig, but it was kind of funny. Y'all watch these videos together. Fair?
Yeah.
Absolutely, yes.
Also going to give you both every dollar app, the best app there is when it comes to finding stuff so y'all can start tracking this stuff. And when you spin something, she's going to know because it's going to show up on her phone too, okay? Okay. But here's the big thing. Have you reached a point, and I've grown up with actors. They're some of my closest friends.
Have you gotten to the point where you're ready to put acting on the background and go get a real job? I say real job, but stop pretending after year five and six and seven and eight that one day this thing's going to happen. Because here's the deal. One day it might happen. But it probably won't. It's both and, right? Yeah, absolutely.
And for every John Kaczynski story, like, I was my last job, I was going home, and then I got the call to be on the office. For every one of those is a whole bunch of people who really went all in and didn't work out. And that's great, and that's awesome they went for it. What are you going to do next? That's the question you have to answer. So you're in school. What are you studying?
I am studying acting, actually. It's a two-year conservatory program. How much is that? It's $750 a month, and then with the work-study hours that I put in there, it usually takes me down to about $200 a month now.
Who's paying for that?
Paying for the school?
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Chapter 4: How does a HELOC work and when should I consider it?
And so you've got to make some decisions on what needs to go. Of course, the four walls is first. You're pausing the baby steps right now. We're not going to be able to pay extra on the debt. We're just going to pay minimum payments. But once we have enough income in the door, we're going to start paying them off smallest to largest balance, regardless of the interest rate.
And once you get your income back up, your wife gets her income up, you're going to be able to knock out this 24K in debt, and it'll be in the rearview mirror. Yeah. But this is going to be a tough season, man. Like you mentioned, four or five jobs for both of you while we figure this thing out and get rid of this debt.
By Sunday? I want you both to have more than one job. And everybody's leaving New York. I just saw the real estate number. Everybody's leaving. There's going to be plenty of jobs. Take the first couple of jobs you can get. And over the next few months, work your way up to a couple more dollars an hour here and there. But you got to work like crazy, work like crazy, work like crazy.
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Chapter 5: What steps can I take if I'm 59 and have no retirement savings?
And what's better than some real-time questions with my friend, George Campbell. All right, dude, George, I got a question for you. Okay. Um, what's the worst physical pain that you've ever felt?
Oh man, you know, I try to avoid pain like at all costs, but I'll tell you a second grade real hard one time. No second grade. I cut my thumb opening a Kool-Aid six pack, those jammers with a razor blade, a box cutter. And I just slice right down my thumb. And what hurt more than the slice was the stitches I got. I cried like a baby. It was so painful.
And I still can't do a thumbs up to this day. I want to hug you a little bit. You've never said that before. I haven't.
How about you? I feel like you've experienced a lot of pain in your life. I have. I trained MMA for years. I got knocked out. I kicked my shins. Literally punched in the face.
Yeah.
That's got to hurt. Can I tell you the worst pain I can remember other than tooth pain? Like I've got a bunch of, I've got a gummy candy issue. And so I've got a bunch of root canals.
Tooth pain is real, dude.
Yeah. Those nerves. I've built some second homes for some dentists. This is embarrassing, but one time I was with a group of kids. I was a sponsor at a youth event and they were out at the beach and I just went sprinting and screaming like an idiot into the beach. I was waving my arms over my head and And somebody had put a railroad track, like a long piece of metal. And I ran in and I kicked it.
And my third toe exploded. And I remember I was in the ER. I was yelling so loud. It hurt, George, it hurt in a way that I couldn't understand. When you get knocked out, your whole body absorbs, like you're just out. When you break an arm or something, it hurts. This was so isolated and so painful, and I remember being so embarrassed that my toe hurt so bad. But that's it, man.
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Chapter 6: How can I communicate financial issues with my partner?
That's strong. It's embarrassing, but such it is.
One of the other cards in these decks is interesting. What do you wish they made a vending machine for? Oh, man. I haven't even been to a vending machine since I can remember.
Yeah, but you've got that cigarette vending machine. Oh, that's right in my house.
Yeah, in your house.
I think it would be cool. I think working here, especially with James as the producer, we don't get a lot of positive feedback very often. So I think a vending machine where I could put in a couple of dollars and just pull out like a happy message.
Wow.
I think that would be great.
That's sad. It's kind of dark, but I know. Actually a good idea. I think that'd be good. I was going to go with like puppies. but that's also sad. That's real, real sad. That's actually more sad. Wow. I just thought it'd be fun to just see a bunch of cute puppies and just be able to get one.
All the mental health professionals in America just went, yes, with guys like you, we're always going to have jobs.
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Chapter 7: What strategies can help me pay off debt quickly?
You got it, man.
What's happening? Here's what's going on, guys. I live in a house. It was built in 1913 originally. And it's proven to be a bit of a money pit. And what does that mean? You know, my wife and I say again, what does that mean? You know, just a few months ago, bathroom tiles were starting to fall off of our wall and our fence. Our fence is hanging on by a thread.
I think if I sneeze too loud, it's going to fall down to the ground. Don't sneeze, man. Yeah, we've got gutter problems where they leak in certain areas. And, you know, currently I have buckets over there, just been hesitant to spend money. So things like that. And so... And so that's it. We're just trying to figure out, you know, should we stay here? Should we move?
If we move and try to follow the guidelines, it's going to be tough in our area. We're currently on a 30 year and dropping it down to a 15 could just prove difficult. And so we're just trying to figure out our next move. Should we rent? Do we stay here and try to cash flow some repairs?
How much money do you guys have in the bank?
We're in baby step three, so we probably have $18,000 in the bank right now, and that's almost a fully funded emergency fund.
Okay, and I'm sure it keeps getting drained because of these home repairs.
Yeah, we just redid the bathroom recently. It was $15,000, and while doing baby steps two and three is what was going on at the time, we cash flowed that.
Well, I'm proud of you guys for making it this far. What's the house worth as is? If you sold today, what do you think you could get for it?
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Chapter 8: How can I prepare for retirement if I'm starting late?
And actually, we'd break the rules out of 15.
So what if you could pause, start to do some of these repairs, get by for another year or two while you save up, and then move out when you have enough money to where you've got the repairs, you've got the equity, you can roll that over to the next one on a 15-year and have it make sense. And you can always refinance later to get your rates lower. Yeah. Would that be a good in-between?
Absolutely. I think so, and it feels kind of like a Baby Step 3B, except instead of a down payment, it's going kind of into the house, which would probably help us on our next down payment.
Do you hate this house?
Oh, the answer to that is definitely yes. But also, I think we realize that at similar prices, we're not going to find...
uh much better you know we have three kids and so desire to have multiple bedrooms and bathrooms and the prices just go up in our area so that's what i was getting at here's what i've been guilty of i don't want to put my world onto you but here's what i've been guilty of i've been guilty of hating a car and i just i grow to hate it more and more and more or i had one particular house i'm thinking of i i just i just grew to not like it
And as the great Brene Brown says, what you go looking for in the world, you are sure to find. So I began to see every single thing that was wrong with it. And then I start casting out five years from now and 10 years from now, I'm going to have to replace this and fix this. And I end up almost... casting this vision upon this place that isn't actually accurate.
Now, I'm not saying you don't need repairs. I'm not saying that your fence isn't embarrassing. All that stuff's true, but But have you just begun to mash down on this house when really some of the challenges are you got three kids and life got really chaotic and you and your wife haven't redesigned your marriage yet to accommodate three kids.
You're still trying to live one kid marriage or your job's crazy or you're just nervous about the economy. See what I'm saying? How we cast all of this other drama onto one thing. We just make it so, so wild. So here's my challenge. My challenge would be for you and your wife to go out somewhere out of the house and sit down and talk to each other and just cast a vision for this house.
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