Chapter 1: What financial preparations should I consider when my girlfriend is pregnant?
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What's up, Thomas? Are you with us? Uh, yes, I'm here. Can you hear me? Yes. Um, hi. Um, my situation is rather complex. Um, my, I'm a 24 year old, um, from Oregon. He's doing college have two years left, um, for a business administration degree. My, my girlfriend is five weeks pregnant. I found out about it three, three days ago. Um, And to be honest, we're both rather scared.
I have no outstanding debts. I don't know if she has any outstanding debts, but I don't believe so. However, she is not in the best financial situation just overall because of living expenses and other things. Wow. Well, that's scary, dude. You have a right to be rightfully spooked by all this. I'm going to go ahead and assume that you are the father. Yes, I'm the father. Okay.
How long have you been together? We've been together around a year. We don't live together, unfortunately, so this is even more scary because we need to find a way to move together if we decide to have a child. Okay. Let's roll back one moment before we even think about that part.
Was this somebody that you planned to be with, or is this something that's like, oh, dang, now I definitely feel like I am stuck? This is someone that I was considering marrying. Her and I both get along amazingly. We have never had a fight in the entire time we've ever been together. I mean, it's been 12 months, man. It's not like 30 years.
Okay, so it was somebody that you were thinking about a future with. Yeah. She is. She's the one that I was thinking about having a future with. Okay, that is good because that way all of... What I would hate is for you to just be thinking, oh, I got this girl pregnant. Now I'm stuck and now I have to move in.
Now I have to get married and be forced into something that you never saw a future with that person. But it's good that you did see a future with her because now she's having your baby. Okay, so you've got two years left of college. What about her? She is currently... She's not in college nor is employed, and that's, I think, the biggest scary thing for me is she's going to have to find a job.
I have to grow up really fast now, and I've never worked a full-time job because I've just been so focused on school all my life. You're 24? Really scary. Yes, 24. Did you take some gap years?
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Chapter 2: How can I manage my girlfriend's financial situation during pregnancy?
I believe so, yes. That would be one piece of homework to figure out is the medical side. And then child care side, she's unemployed. She's going to need to get to work until she can no longer work and baby's about to be here to try to at least mitigate some of the financial damage here. And then is she going to just stay home with the baby? And then are you going to be near her?
How close are you guys right now as far as distance? I'm around three hours. Three hours. Oh, gosh. OK, so now I understand a little bit more what you were speaking about. Is there since she's kind of unattached in the way of school or work, is she able to come closer to where you are? Would she be willing to do that? She's been currently working towards that.
She has been trying to find a way to move out where she currently lives. Where does she live? Is she with family? She's living in a home with other roommates is what she's living in. How is she affording it? I think it's very personal, but I think it's like something regarding she has a case manager and that kind of thing. Okay, so she's just getting government assistance? Yes, I think so.
She's getting quite a bit of assistance. Okay, okay. How old is she?
Chapter 3: What steps should I take to support my girlfriend and prepare for fatherhood?
She's 21. Does she have family nearby that you guys could move closer to to have some help, and would they be willing to help? Have you had that conversation? Her family is not very in her life. My family, unfortunately, is six hours south of me. Got it.
OK, so thing number one on the list, I think, is you guys need to get together and you need to create a plan for you guys living near each other, especially if you think the plan might be to get married. So that's thing one. Thing two is verifying the whole insurance business, because if she's estranged from her parents, maybe she's not.
And if she's getting government assistance, there's a lot there. And then the third thing I would do is once you figure out the living situation, I would start I would find a local church and I would start premarital counseling just to see if you guys are a fit. Like if you could do a marriage together, if you could. Yes, I understand.
Yeah, I would have a hard time saying get married immediately because I just I'm not hearing anything. in your voice and even in your vicinity that that was the plan per se. I don't know if I'm right or wrong on that, but I don't want to just say to you, go get married. Does that make sense? Yeah. Given what you've told us. And then what is your financial picture?
Do you have any savings right now? Do you have any debt? I have a large college fund that was set up by my family. I come from a rather privileged background. I believe my college fund is technically owned by me. It's around $50,000 to $70,000, maybe up to $90,000 at the most. Okay. What about other cash? Other cash, not a lot, unfortunately. Okay. Well, hey, you've got a nine-month runway here.
And so I would heavily consider pausing school, moving closer together, and you getting to work full-time plus a side job, her taking on a full-time job until baby's close to being here. And then you just save up cash. And then we'll figure out the debt later. But right now you're in stork mode, stocking up cash and figuring out the life plan. Then we'll figure out the financial plan.
And don't do anything really crazy until the doctor says. A lot of times people don't even tell people that they're pregnant until like what, around the 12 week mark. So keep this close to your belt for now.
Statistics show that half of Americans don't have enough life insurance or they don't have any at all. I don't understand this, John. Why don't people want to take care of their family? They think they're going to die or something? Well, I used to be one of those guys.
I didn't even think about it. And one of my buddies said, hey, the only reason to not have life insurance is if you hate your wife and kids. And I immediately went and got term life insurance. That's a gut punch. And you're telling me and for decades, Dave, I've sat across people who've lost a spouse. They've lost somebody important to them. Me too.
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Chapter 4: What are the long-term financial implications of having a child?
Her team wants her to buy $500,000 a year. in life insurance, and I'm trying to convince her that there are better products available. Who encouraged this? She has a financial planning team. Okay. How big is her estate? What is her net worth? Probably about $60 million. Okay.
Now, there are at this level, there are, you know, there's life insurance strategies that a lot of advisors use to protect the estate. So I don't want to just go in going, this is a ripoff. They're trying to screw her over. That may not be the case here.
When we talk about life insurance, we're talking about, you know, whole life policies for the average everyday American when they're getting ripped off at 600 bucks a month. So when we have a 60 million dollars estate, there are situations where paying a half a million a year to protect, you know, for 20 million dollar savings could be worth it. So have you got any intel from the advisor?
Yeah, she's got a couple policies. She has a $1.5 million whole life policy that's $100K a year, and then two $10 million policies that are each $100K a year, and they want her to buy an additional policy for an additional $300K a year. Goodness gracious. It just seems... It feels like now they're just grabbing commissions left and right. Right, right. That's where I go.
This is not as black and white as it may seem, but if you were getting red flags, I would have the conversation with them. Are they willing to hear you out? Yes, but when they... For example, I'd like her to get rid of the whole life policy. Their argument is that in seven years it pays for itself, so why would she not...
keep paying for a few more years until it's paying for herself paying for itself i don't have a very good how does it pay for itself the paid up additions eventually get reinvested and then the investment inside the whole life policy pays the premiums Yikes. Well, that plan can implode pretty quickly with how high these premiums are and how awful the returns are.
And so if I'm in your shoes, I would contact a third party advisor on your own and get their take. And then at least you have some to go, hey, I talked to an advisor. Here's what they said about this. Will you hear them out? And maybe they go, yep, I understand what they're doing. All good. Or they go, no, here's what I think is happening. And here's the tweaks to make. Okay.
I've gone that route, and that has given me some ammo to push back on her team. In a lot of ways, it feels like they're operating on her fear that she's not going to take good care of her heirs, which clearly she's going to, beyond anybody's wildest imaginations. It seems more like a...
I was going to say, I would just look into, I'd be really interested in finding out what type of whole life policies those were. There are some instances where if it's like a variable life, it could be something that is available to her. I don't know if this many policies would be it, but that's what I'd be looking into if I were you.
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Chapter 5: How can I financially prepare for my girlfriend's pregnancy?
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That's the letter Y-R-E-F-Y dot com slash Ramsey may not be available in all states. Okie dokie. Today's question comes from Shannon in Florida. She says, what's your opinion on how much to help kids financially after they get married? My son and his fiance are getting married this summer. They're in their early 20s and have a young daughter. They're both in college pursuing degrees.
Our plan is for them to live in our basement for free until they graduate and start working full time. I plan on continuing to pay for my son's college and provide help to his wife as well.
after they get married i'm getting mixed opinions about whether i'm helping or hurting them by supporting them after they're married even if he's married he's still my son and i think it's my responsibility to help both of them get through college debt free if i'm able to friends and family say they need to be independent once they're married even if that means going into debt to finish college and pay rent so they can live independently uh what are your thoughts so
It sounds like they started a little earlier than most as far as having children. And because of that, it's kind of set a course of events into action a little earlier than maybe planned.
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Chapter 7: How can I help my young married son and his wife financially?
So I'm with you, Shannon, on the education part. I think that if it was your plan to pay for college, especially for your son, and he's still willing to go. I think it's great if you're still willing to pay for college. Now, did I read you say that you were paying for hers too? I think you're just supporting her. I'm fine with you paying for college. I think that's great.
Now, the living in the basement until they graduate and start working full-time, if you tell me they're 20 or 21 and they have no money and they have a kid, I think that is okay. There has to be clear evidence
guardrails and time frames on this it can't just be oh live in the basement and i'm supporting you financially until you're ready and the part of you being ready is just kind of like this vague ambiguous yeah they're probably not leaving at that point if mom's still folding my laundry and covering all the bills so there is that that word independent is the key here if they are what does that mean
If they are codependent and now you're enabling the codependence, that's on you. And so we need to make sure that, number one, we're not artificially propping up their life. If this was a marathon, you don't want to be carrying them over the finish line. Now, if they're running and they're doing a great job and they've trained, it's okay to give them a little boost.
And that's what you want to do here as a parent. It's okay to help them financially after they get married. I think that's awesome. If you want to pay for the wedding and you want to help them with a down payment and gift them some money for that, that's great. But only if they're already employed and working hard and able to take care of the bills on their own.
Yeah, I think they should be paying you. I think you need to sit down and have something very clear here as far as what are they going to pay you in rent? Because if they're just living for free, that's not going to help them when it does come time for them to go into the world and try to lease a place. They're
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of living paycheck-to-paycheck?
history of paying rent and so that's good even if it's 500 bucks come up with something so they have some skin in the game also set very clearly how long is this agreement gonna last if he's out of college and you know two years is that the cutoff point is it two years and six months like be very specific what are the parameters while they're there must both of them have at least part-time jobs must they be paying a certain amount of rent right make that so so clear and
so that there's no question. And when the time comes for them to leave the nest, they're not thinking that you're kicking them out. They're going, oh yeah, this is exactly what we decided. So whatever you set, make sure you're talking about it early and often and make sure that you don't get caught up in this as the rescuer and their drama triangle.
If you've never Googled a drama triangle, you should. The triangulation. Yes. All right. Good question, Shannon. Frank is in Boise up next on the line. What's going on, Frank? Hi, I have a question to ask you. I've been talking to a financial advisor here at Boise, recommended from you guys, and I had three 401Ks.
Because the contractor I work under, they keep changing companies, so it changes to a new 401k, and they're pretty small. So I think three, they total around $73,000. I want to know what to do. Should I roll them into the new 401k by this April, this month, or should I roll them into a personal IRA, which the financial advisor recommends that?
And I brought them up, you know, about the large cap, mid cap, small cap and international companies that they ran. But I'm 57 years old and they said they need to make a portfolio for me just for me because of my age that. they would do it differently or something like that.
Yeah, I'm guessing they're saying, hey, you need to start including some bonds and sort of tone down the aggressive investing as you get closer to retirement, which is normal in the financial planning world. You'll hear that a lot. So that is okay to do that. So I don't need to be with large cap, mid cap, small cap or international companies exactly like that. We still advise it.
Dave Ramsey is a big fan of just keeping it 100% equities and letting it ride because over the long haul, I mean, you could live to be 97. So you're talking you're still got 40 years of that money sitting there. And so they're just going to be a little bit of a drag when it comes to the bonds starting to enter the picture with much lower returns, but also less volatility.
And so it's a really personal decision for you. And, you know, you can talk with your advisor on what they recommend for your situation. We don't have all the facts on what your expenses are and what the nest egg is going to be. So they may have their reasons there. But either way, you want to do a direct rollover to the new 401k or to the IRA.
And so you never should touch the money and you want to keep it in kind. So if it's traditional 401k, you want to move it to a traditional 401k or traditional IRA.
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