CBA Economist Stephen Halmarick

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Well, last week proved to be another bitter pill to swallow for mortgage borrowers with the RBA rate rise. who are not finished by a long stretch with more basis points increases. Already since May, it's gone up by 125 points. RBA Governor Philip Lowe says the size and the timing of future increases will be guided by incoming economic data and the board expects to take further steps in the process of normalising monetary conditions in Australia over the months ahead. So let's welcome to The Breakfast Podcast Commonwealth Bank of Australia Chief Economist Stephen Halmaric. Good morning, Stephen. Welcome to the show. Good morning. My pleasure. Thank you. I'm wondering, has there been more of a busier time right now for economists around Australia jostling for position with trying to predict an unpredictable world in the middle of what is probably a volatile set of circumstances?
Stephen Halmarick 3:22
Well I've been a financial market economist for 36 years so I've seen a few cycles over the years and there's definitely been some times where it's been much busier than others and this is certainly one of them.
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And the RBA's 25 basis point rate increase in May followed by two rises of 50 basis points in June and July is the fastest acceleration of rates since 1994, so this hasn't happened for a long time, but a different set of circumstances, right?
Stephen Halmarick 3:54
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I was working actively in 1994. And the memory, the Reserve Bank increased interest rates by 275 basis points in just a few months. And of course, the interest rates were much higher than they are today. So it's a global increase in the inflation and monetary policy needs to be tightening globally. And the Reserve Bank here in Australia is just part of that.
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And Philip Lowe said that it is reasonable for the cash rate to get to 2.5% at some point, the midpoint of its inflation target range. And I guess the fear potentially is that when we reach that 2.5%, what other factors might be at play? And are the goalposts constantly moving? What are your thoughts around that?
Stephen Halmarick 4:42
Well, the real aim here for the Reserve Bank is to get inflation back down into the target range. As you said, 2.5% is the middle of the target range. So it's 2% to 3% on average.

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