194. Trump Vs Netanyahu: Who’s Calling The Shots?
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello and welcome to The Rest is Politics U.S. with me, Katty Kay.
And me, Anthony Scaramucci. Good morning, Katty.
So, Anthony, how are you spending Monday evening?
The only thing, by the way, for all of our listeners around the world that anyone in the States is interested in right now, and particularly anyone in New York City is interested in right now, is... Well, I'm going to the Knick final, but Trump's going also to the Knick final, so he's got the entire city on lockdown. So, you know, c'est la vie.
Raining on New York's parade.
Yeah, it's all good. You know, no problem. I just, I didn't, I didn't want my kids to miss it. So I bought the tickets. We're ready to go.
Let's go New York. Everyone's going to be excited. But in the meantime. Yes. Are we fighting?
Katty, tell me how you define a ceasefire. The president says, well, you know, a ceasefire on the other side of the world may or may not be a ceasefire. A few bombs here and there.
I thought that was just a very interesting way of saying other people do things differently from how we do them. Tell me how do you define a ceasefire and are we in a ceasefire right now, Katty Kay?
I think what matters is the countries that are fighting, not the geographical location of the ceasefire. I'm just going to posit it a bit like that. So if the United States is fighting, whether it's in the Middle East or in Latin America or in the United States or in Asia, a ceasefire is a ceasefire is a ceasefire. And this doesn't seem to be one. We're going to be talking about that in the first half of the program, and whether Donald Trump has just boxed himself in in such a way that he's got to try and put pressure on Israel, he desperately doesn't want to get back into a fighting match with Iran. His options, his roadmap for getting out of this thing, a lot of those exits seem to be blocked at the moment, and they're blocked by decisions of his own making.
In the second half, we're going to talk about Donald Trump's interview with Meet the Press on NBC that ended in a walkout after a rather contentious debate over, yes, the 2020 election and the January the 6th riot.
Good. I want to talk about that with you because you're the media person. I just play a media person on this podcast, but you're the media person. I really want to understand NBC, CBS media. mainstream news media. Where are things going in this country and around the world?
And what is the discussion about how to handle Donald Trump? And why is it that He has now been on our radars since 2015, but I still think we haven't quite figured out how to handle somebody who routinely lies to journalists' faces. Okay, so let's start, though, with what is happening in the Middle East and this ceasefire that is not a ceasefire, or maybe it is a ceasefire, but it depends on how much pressure Iran is going to put on Israel and how much pressure Trump is going to put on Israel as well. So where do you think... we are, Antony, because I think this is one of those moments where we seem to have rowed back from a huge amount of escalation. We had this situation where the Israelis hit Beirut.
The Iranians had signaled they wouldn't tolerate that, so the Iranians hit Israel. Israel then retaliated against Iran, but in a fairly limited way after Donald Trump called Benjamin Netanyahu and says, do not burn Tehran to the ground, which is what some Israeli politicians were asking for and calling for. I thought it was such an interesting moment where you had Donald Trump making major international policies that affected his America's allies. But how was he doing it? He was doing it by answering journalists' phone calls again. Every time there seems to be a moment of tension in the Middle East and things flare up again, Donald Trump, of course, gets a string of phone calls from reporters in Washington, DC.
What does he do?
How does Trump influence Netanyahu's actions in the Middle East?
He tells those reporters what he is about to tell Benjamin Netanyahu. So Netanyahu hears it from the Financial Times or from Axios, exactly what Trump is going to do. And I think that it's symbolic of the kind of chaos in the decision making.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:07–4:01
2
How does Trump influence Netanyahu's actions in the Middle East?
4:01–5:27
3
What defines a ceasefire in the context of US-Israel relations?
5:27–9:40
4
What are Trump's options regarding Iran and Israel?
9:40–10:01
5
What happened during Trump's controversial NBC interview?
10:01–11:33
6
How does Trump's relationship with the media impact public perception?
11:33–14:27
7
Why is the Strait of Hormuz critical to US-Iran relations?
14:27–44:12
Speakers
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