199. White House Shouting Match: Is Trump Sabotaging His Own Party?

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What recent events showcase Trump's influence on the GOP?

Donald Trump 0:10
I think we had a really great meeting, and we're very proud of the party. We like our leader. We like everybody really in the room. I don't like a few people, but that's okay. I think you know who they are. But I'll give you that information someday. But for the most part, we have a really well-unified party.
Katty Kay 0:29
Well, if that's Trump's version of a great meeting, it says a lot about the state of the White House and the Republican Party, I reckon. Reaction there after he got into a shouting match with Senator Bill Cassidy and refused to sign a housing bill that had passed with bipartisan support, Antony. And they had the podium set. The chairs were out. He had gone down to the Capitol. He was going to sign the bill. It was going to help Republicans because it shows that the White House and the Republican Party actually care about housing and the cost of housing for Americans. But no, on his way there, Donald Trump decides he's not going to help the Republican Party after all, decides not to sign the bill until they pass legislation.
Katty Kay 1:16
the Save America Act, which is his voting rights act, or as some people are calling it, a voting suppression act. So how are things going, Antony, between your party and the president? All going swimmingly?
Anthony Scaramucci 1:27
It's terrible for me to say this to you because I am so thoroughly enjoying it. And I am the type of person that does. And I am the type of person that does say to people, I told you so. You follow? So like when someone says, well, who's Trump going to support in the midterms? Nobody. Who's Trump going to support as a Republican for the presidency? Okay, that would be nobody. What is Trump going to do? Whatever the F he wants to do. Okay, so yes, I told you so. But the number one thing for me, Gatti, was Mike Johnson. Because we got the setup, we got all the colorful pens, and he's going to give the cardiac arrest signature. And then he doesn't show up.
Katty Kay 2:12
Like a wedding, and the groom doesn't show up, right?
Anthony Scaramucci 2:14
Yeah, they get the microphone in Mike's face, and they say, Mike. How do you feel about being blindsided by the president? And Mike says, oh, it didn't really happen that way. Okay, I'm just going to leave it there, Caddy.

How did Trump's shouting match with Senator Cassidy unfold?

Anthony Scaramucci 2:27
I'll let you decide what I think of Mike Johnson. But my God, Caddy. Okay, go ahead. What do you, what?
Katty Kay 2:33
Well, no, I mean, look, there is Trump. He is holding a winning bill hostage to a losing one because the losing one is the one that he wants. It's got his name all over it. And that is the way he is operating. And I think, Antony, Republicans, because this was one heck of a screaming match. Like, you know, there was Senator Cassidy saying, I'm not going to sit down. Trump yelling at him. Cassidy calls him brother. I'm not your brother. You said this war was going to last four weeks. It's lasted four months. I mean, it's like a divorce moment where everything is coming out and probably somebody's going to regret what they say. And then the best of all of this, Antony, is that Senator Cassidy comes out and tells reporters all of this.
Katty Kay 3:16
He says... The president raised his voice. I raised my voice just as much. I'm not going to be bullied. Well, okay, you have been bullied for a year. But anyway, let's move that aside. But I think Republicans, after this big... Because this is not the first time recently, right? There's a security... code called Pfizer, which needs renewing, which Trump is refusing to renew. He's made Cassidy lose his seat as a senator. He's made John Cornyn in Texas, we've spoken about this, effectively lose his seat as a senator. He's really been messing with the Republican Party recently. I think there are Republicans. I spoke to a Republican just yesterday who said, look, we are kind of waking up to what has seemed obvious to people for a while, which is that
Katty Kay 4:10
Donald Trump may actually be sabotaging our interests come the midterm elections because he is doing all of these things that are not helping us. Is he losing control of the party or is he burning it down on purpose? That's my question to you.
Anthony Scaramucci 4:25
He's burning it down on purpose.

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