What Is Collagen All About?

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What is collagen and why are we talking about a beige pill?

Michael Stevens 0:01
Hello and welcome to the rest is science. I am Michael Stevens.
Professor Hannah Fry 0:04
And I am Hannah Fry. And I'm here to entertain Michael. You know, do you think the audience knows that we genuinely don't tell each other what the field notes is gonna be about until we start?
Michael Stevens 0:14
I don't know. That's a good question. Because we don't. I don't know what you're about to show me, which makes it so it's so fun. I I enjoy this. I enjoy knowing that I have no Pressure, no responsibility. You know, if if what you have to show me isn't cool, I can just take a little nap and I'm still doing my job.
Professor Hannah Fry 0:32
How dare you? How very dare you. Yeah, except the thing is that what ends up happening every single time, Michael, is that um you always have loads of really interesting stuff to contribute and uh and hopefully vice versa. Um okay, we're gonna come to your questions later on, um as we do in every field notes, but um for the first half, I have brought you, Michael, um for field notes, I've brought you one of these. This is um It looks like a pill. It is. Oh do should I do that? Beauty influencer thing where they put their hand up to the camera.
Michael Stevens 1:01
Do the beauty thing and try to tap your nails on it. Okay, so it's just a beige like pill. It looks like the size of a typical vitamin, like a supplement type pill.
Professor Hannah Fry 1:11
It is. I am holding a collagen supplement, Michael. And I thought that I would do a little episode um for you about well, what on earth is going on with these things? Why is everyone trying to sell them? And whether or not they actually work. And where do they get the collagen
Michael Stevens 1:28
from?
Professor Hannah Fry 1:29
And where do they get the collagen from? Now, okay, for this, um, I have a very good friend of mine called Zan van Tuleken, who has just written this amazing book called Make Me Well. And um the book is essentially he uh he's a uh a a trained doctor has worked as a doctor for many years, and he has gone through all of the evidence on all of the various wellness fads that exist in the world and has written this really brilliant, very funny, very entertaining book that goes through all of it and just cuts through everything to try and separate the fact from the fiction. And collagen supplements, I have to tell you, is the one thing that I get so many requests from people to like start selling. telling these things and I have thus far um refused.
Professor Hannah Fry 2:20
Um and uh you will see why. You will see why over the course of the next fifteen minutes or so, um as to w as to why.
Michael Stevens 2:27
Okay, I love this because I don't know anything about collagen and its nutritional value, but I know a lot about collagen when it comes to barbecuing.
Professor Hannah Fry 2:44
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Michael Stevens 2:45
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Professor Hannah Fry 2:58
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Michael Stevens 3:12
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Professor Hannah Fry 3:21
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Michael Stevens 3:30
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Professor Hannah Fry 3:42
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Professor Hannah Fry 4:00
R go on. Wha what what temperature it has to be at?
Michael Stevens 4:04
Yeah, well, it doesn't even matter what temperature. Collagen is always kind of breaking down. But when it's hotter, it happens more quickly. So it's a big part of a slow cook. You know, one of my dreams is to get Pitmaster added to my description on Wikipedia. And so I'm thinking of opening a a barbecue restaurant, maybe in New Zealand. But yeah, I've really practiced like keeping certain temperatures going without drawing out

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