LOVE. We're taught to believe it should look a certain way—sweeping gestures, perfect partners, and a happily ever after that fits nicely inside a neat little box. But what if that story isn't serving us? What if rethinking love—taking it off the pedestal—could actually bring us closer to connection, not further from it? Culturally, when we mention love for a person we often assume it's the love between romantic partners, but in reality love lives and expresses itself intimately, personally and uniquely through many different forms. So,I thought it might be interesting to dive into what it means to decenter romantic love: to separate love from sex, romance, fantasy, from social scripts, and from the pressure to make it look a certain kind of way. What if, instead of centering our romantic love relationship with a significant other, we recentered it to focus on our friends,family or better yet, ourselves? This conversation is about making space for different kinds of love—And maybe, redefining what it means to love and be loved in a way that fills us. This, is The Reveal. If this episode stirred something in you, I'd love to hear about it. You can join the conversation at ellechase.com or share your thoughts on the Instagram page @thereveal_podcast with the hashtag #TheRevealPodcast. And if you want to go deeper into these kinds of questions, make sure you're subscribed. There's so much more to explore. Podcast Page: www.ellechase.com/podcastEmail: [email protected] Mailing List: https://www.ellechase.com/mailing-list-sign-up Instagram: @thereveal_podcast and @theellechase #TheRevealPodcast GUEST INFORMATION: Anne Hodder-Shipp, CSE (she/they) an award-winning certified sex educator and relationship coach dedicated to providing accurate, expansive, and compassionate care. They are the lead educator at professional development organization, Everyone Deserves Sex Ed, and in her private practice, she helps teenagers and adults build knowledge and confidence around identity, pleasure, relationships, and communication. Most recently, Anne wrote the highly anticipated love language revamp, Speaking from the Heart: 18 Languages for Modern Love, and its accompanying guide, The Speaking from the Heart Workbook: A Practical Guide to the Modern Love Languages. You can reach Anne at: Website: annehoddershipp.comWebsite: themodernlovelanguages.comWebsite: https://everyonedeservessexed.com/Instagram: @theannehodderTikTok: @theannehodder The Book: Speaking from the Heart: 18 Languages for Modern Love The Workbook: The Speaking from the Heart Workbook: A Practical Guide to Languages for Modern Love If this episode stirred something in you, I'd love to hear about it. You can join the conversation at ellechase.com or share your thoughts on the Instagram page @thereveal_podcast with the hashtag #TheRevealPodcast. And if you want to go deeper into these kinds of questions, make sure you're subscribed. There's so much more to explore. Podcast Page: www.ellechase.com/podcastEmail: [email protected] Mailing List: https://www.ellechase.com/mailing-list-sign-up Instagram: @thereveal_podcast and @theellechase #TheRevealPodcast THE REVEAL PODCAST WITH ELLE CHASE IS PRODUCED BY: Jonathan David at Track Cult and Emma Chasin at Elle Chase WEBSITE: www.ellechase.com/podcast EMAIL: [email protected] ALL SOCIAL: @theellechase Copyright©Elle Chase LLC

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