The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan spend the night in the Upper East Side with Mike and Claire as they rewatch Ridley Scott’s 1987 crime thriller ‘Someone to Watch Over Me’—starring Tom Berenger, Mimi Rogers, and Lorraine Bracco Podcast Manager: Craig Horlbeck Video Producers: Ronak Nair and Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What movie are Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan discussing?
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The rewatchables are brought to you. By the Ringer Podcast Network, where you can find The Watch with CR. Still in on The Last of Us? Yeah, still in. Heard shit's going down on that show.
It's all going down, yeah. Nobody's safe. Nobody's safe. It's a nobody's safe show. How about Andor? Are you going to check that out? You keep telling me to. Yeah, a novelistic approach to the Star Wars galaxy.
I just want to see Jon Hamm steal from his friends. That's where MTV was. My name is Bill Simmons. Ciara and I have been doing... We did the first Rewatchables ever. It started in my... The last one. It started at my pool house. This might be the last one. Every once in a while, we do one for us. We've been circling this for a while. But really, Tubi... who is not a sponsor of this podcast.
And I'm mad at Tubi because they won't give us Kiss of Death and they can actually fuck off. So this is not a sponsor. But every once in a while, Tubi understands us. And they kept shoving someone to watch over me.
Yeah.
Always. Hey, have you heard about this movie? It's like, not only have I heard about this movie, I've seen it 30 times. And we said, fuck it. We're doing the rewatchables. It's next.
I never saw anybody killed before.
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Chapter 2: What are the themes explored in 'Someone to Watch Over Me'?
Yeah. Who when this movie came out, nobody knew who she was.
it was a complete out of nowhere and it was a complete out of nowhere for amy rogers and the only person we had a history with was behringer but you have this moral choice for this cop where he's like i have this great queen and they do a really good job with the family life stuff this great family life my house is just big enough it's cool we're all together we bust each other's balls i have all these great friends
And my wife is cool, and she's kind of like Queens hot. Yeah. Queens eight. Queens nine and a half. And then he's with Mimi Rogers, and he goes into her world for five seconds, and he's like, this is Princess Diana? Yeah. And he's just battling that. But I think the most – my wife was – we were talking about this, and she's like, why do we like this movie so much?
And I said, because it pulls off the hardest thing you can pull off. Somebody's doing something terrible – but you can kind of see it and you're not holding it against them.
Isn't this why we love this like 85 to 95, 97 run where you get all these like erotic thrillers and indie movies, like where it's body double body heat, sea of love, big, easy fatal attractions, sexualized and videotape. all the way up through Eyes Wide Shut even, where you're like, this is just really interesting. There might be a genre movie happening around it.
So there's a cop movie happening around it. But what you're there for is this guy's midlife crisis and this crossroads that he comes to where he's like, God, this is like a complete fantasy land up here in Manhattan. But then I have like this decent life. And you're actually kind of like, you can see both sides of it.
no matter where you are in your life, you can kind of see like, I can see why this would be pretty seductive, but also you got your kid and your wife over here and you're doing good.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a moral crossroads movie. Maybe that's a genre fatal attraction, which comes out the same year. This is just, and this is probably to be his greatest year, 87. They should just have one of the categories should be.
And by the way, this is not an ad for two because they can fuck off because they haven't given us kiss of death yet, but they could do a carousel category just called 87. Yeah. And there's like 20 of these that they made this year. But Fatal Attraction was the one that I think did the best.
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Chapter 3: How does the film portray the character dynamics?
Literally the name of the movie.
A successful but world-weary art dealer finds out that her usual masseur has sent a substitute for a weekly massage at her home. They find out that they're both mutually attracted and annoy one another a great deal. Director, Nicholas Rogue. Is this a Skinamax movie? Nicholas Rogue, director, your guy. But why is it called Full Body Massage? I'm just... Listen, I'm just a messenger. Okay.
This stuff's just out there. Just gotta find it. But, uh... For what she's trying to do in this movie, I think she's fantastic.
Yeah, she's great. She has to be, like you said, she has to be the princess that needs saving. Like, who's this person now?
Because you have to be, there's a difference between, oh, she's a rich lady and the way they do this character.
Jessica Chastain.
That's a good one. It's beyond rich. She is in a world that she only deals with a few people. Yeah. She has conversations with the most dressed up. Like that party scene is so key in the beginning. Everyone's dressed up. The conversations they have, it's almost like another language. Yeah. And she just moves in these circles. It's like the limo driver's right there. I go from here to here.
I need to get you a tie. She walks into the store. Everybody knows who she is. And she pulls it off. There's an elegance to it.
And then when she's effectively vulnerable. Because you can see why she would want... the sort of protection and the masculinity of the Keegan character in her life.
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Chapter 4: What makes the performances stand out in this film?
Let's get rid of that. The fake punch sound we talked about. And then there's that one scene when Mike's in the hospital. and Orbach, who doesn't realize he's going to be in Crimes and Misdemeanors in a much better movie in two years. So he's really got to go for the Oscar. And he's like, is it love, Mike? I hope so. I want it to be worth it for your sake.
But he's really trying to act. Incredible workplace changes over the decades. This captain is like, so tell me a little bit about this relationship you got going.
More than just sex? What else do you have for what stage is the worst?
I just had to focus on the sound effect. I don't know why Ridley Scott can't just go in and fix that as a digital copy.
Could Tubi give him like $5,000? Yeah. Not a bad idea.
rufflo hannah rubinick partridge overacting word venza or also venza when he's like i give the order i don't take orders yeah yeah or when venza first gets mimi rogers in the bathroom at the party and he the first thing he says to her is like don't say a word screaming at the top of his lungs that's another like what's aged the worst how does he get in that party
How does he sneak into the bathroom with nobody noticing him? He's like a wanted fugitive at that point.
He also always seems to have a tux.
Yeah. Tux killer. That would have been a better idea. Oh, this will be good. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford hottest take award.
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