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The Knicks Are Headed to the Finals! | Real Ones

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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What's poppin'? Real ones.

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Chapter 2: What does the Knicks' advancement to the NBA Finals mean for their chances?

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Logan Murdoch here. Howard Beckin. Roger Bell in a minute. The Knicks are going to the NBA Finals. I know you've heard that. I can smell the chopped cheese from 3,000 miles away. It's poppin' in New York. I already know. It's 75 degrees. It's spring. It's a vibe. And it's going to be a vibe for the next week and a half in New York. So we just try to summon that energy.

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on this Real Ones pod of the excitement that's going on in New York with the NBA Finals there. Then we talk about the disappointment in Cleveland. Do you even run the Cavs team back as currently constructed? I don't know. I really don't know. I think they've reached the ceiling.

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Chapter 3: What should the Cavaliers do after being swept by the Knicks?

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But we'll get into all of that. Then we get a quick – update on the san antonio oklahoma city series then we have a really fun mailbag man really really fun episode uh shout out to my new yorkers shout out to uh big baller ben shout out to spike shout out to all the homies um yeah man ruins up next holla

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What's poppin'? Real ones. Logan Murdoch here. Howard Beck there. Roger Bell there. It's lit. We ready to go. Orange and blue skies. They not playin' around. Knicks last night in game four had a – it felt like a bit of a credo, Raja. A bit of a motto. And it was, fuck that frail shit. You know, they came and they put the body in the trunk in Cleveland, you know.

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And, you know, they had 100 rounds, 100 clips, you know. And they showed where they were from. And –

Chapter 4: How do the Knicks match up against the potential Western Conference Finals teams?

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you're just going to keep doing it. Okay.

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149.794 - 150.034 Howard Beck

Yeah.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Knicks winning the Finals for the league?

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All right. You know, um, it was that real shit, that shit to make you feel shit, you know? Um, man, let me just do the shout outs right now, man. Shout out to BK. Shout out to all my dudes in the BX. Shout out Steph, you know, you know, shout out, uh, Keith, shout out to everybody in the ringer chat, uh, in the ringer chat and the ringer masthead that are Knicks fans. This is your time to shine.

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Shout out to you,

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shout out to all my homies in the bk shout out to yonkers shout out to uh what other man shout out to all my homies down there on 125th and linux you know getting it popping shout out to rogers folks that's over there in new york you feel me shout out to everybody that's you know that got it popping you know how we do you know how we feel shout out to world trade and the offices over there everybody going to work everybody making everybody you know what i mean hey you're just naming random fucking off the dome parts of new york that you know that's what that was that

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Yeah, but the last part was, you know, the people in Spotify offices at World Trade Center that hold it down for us.

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208.193 - 210.877 Raja Bell

Oh, I didn't know that's where the Spotify offices were. Okay, I understand.

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You know what I mean? You need to tap in. You know what I mean? Okay, we also have to do a podcast, so let's tap in with the real mayor of Brooklyn, Howard motherfucking Beck. What's it like out there in New York right now? What's going on? How's life? What's up, man?

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I mean, it's like 75 and sunny. It finally feels like spring. It's great.

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we would have gotten a lot of trouble years ago for that man but can we just remind can we remind we would have gotten a lot of trouble for that howard for what remember those days do you remember those days logan where if when we talked weather because i like to talk weather too we would be we would get scolding we get a we get an email a cease and desist we'll get a

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My 75 in New York and Sonny is like the best. What's the vibe, bro?

Chapter 6: What are the key factors in the Cavaliers' future roster decisions?

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Anyway, so, you know, there was some turbulence in the orange and blue skies to start the postseason in Atlanta. And then they just wanted to run and just beat the shit out of everyone. And then... We could talk about the game for itself and the culmination of what that was against Cleveland. And I do want to get into Cleveland in a second.

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But let me throw some stats your way, Roger, before I get to this question. The Knicks have now outscored their opponents by 262 points over the last 11 games. It's the best point differential across 11 games in NBA history, regardless of whether it is regular season or postseason play. That's from our guy Tim Bontemps.

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We've seen big runs, and I feel like there's this assumption, and we have definitely fed into this, but that whoever comes out of the West is winning the title. But listen, man, what I've seen out of the Knicks and what we've seen collectively out of the Knicks, it's not going to be a walk in the park. It's not going to be that.

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Chapter 7: How does James Harden's performance impact the Cavaliers' plans?

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What have you seen from them over the last month, and how did that culminate in last night's game?

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474.506 - 492.478 Raja Bell

Yeah. Look, I said the last time I addressed this that I thought whoever coming out of the West would win the championship, but I did present a caveat to that. Do you remember what that was? I don't know. Do you remember what that was, Howard? What was the caveat?

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No, I don't. I don't remember. But I forget things about five minutes after their set.

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If the Knicks would get out of this series in four and the two teams out west would continue to beat each other up... One, the rest that was banked, and we talked about that coming into the series against the Cavs after game one and how it would not get any easier for the Cavs after that, just having played as many games as they have and as many nights that they had.

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And two, if they were able to get through the Cavs in the sweep, that suggests that they are continuing to be the hottest team in the NBA because they are that. They're the hottest team in the NBA right now. And so for both of those reasons, I would agree with you, Logan. a puncher's a puncher's chance against anybody coming out of the Western Conference. And in some instances, a problem, maybe.

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They're...

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sneakily deep um they throw a lot of guys at you that can they can also guard you uh they have a combination of size one that's really physical and outworks you and block shots and is as and another that is really finesse and skill and can stretch the floor like they they've got you know jalen brunson who's as good a closer in the league as anybody and when he gets hot they've got a lot of components that could be a problem for the western conference they're the hottest team in the nba right now they did their job and for that reason like i agree with you i think they i think

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The finals should be whoever coming out of the West in the next couple games should be fun to watch in a way that maybe two weeks ago I wasn't exactly sure it would be.

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Howard, this is going to be a ratings bonanza. I'm sure the league is very excited about no matter if the Knicks are going to play the Spurs or the Oklahoma City Thunder. You got the finals in the garden. What is...

Chapter 8: What insights can we gain from the Game 5 WCF preview?

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And the Cavaliers, who the Knicks just smoked, I think were the only second apron team this season. And despite everything they spent as a smaller market, it didn't get them very far. Or it got them well short of the finals anyway. What the Knicks have put together is really impressive. Can't wait to see how this Western Conference Finals ends and who they end up going up against.

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We'll get to that. And yeah, sure. I'm sure the NBA is happy that the biggest market on the continent is going to be fueling ratings today. But, I mean, who fucking cares about ratings? It's like the Knicks are a really good, really fun team. That's what matters. I don't care about, like, you know, whether this is good for the league. Like, great finals are good for the league.

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Last year's finals were awesome, and it was two of the smallest markets.

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Can you talk about the flow state that the Knicks are in offensively right now, Roger? What are you seeing, and how can that translate into the next round?

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I mean, I don't know what you could take away from last night's game. I mean, they're just –

901.088 - 917.528 Raja Bell

know howard just made the point they're playing with synergy they've got a they've got a really good um you know collective kind of energy that obviously the chemistry is right and i was i don't probably not answering your question but like as i was thinking there were some shout outs that i wanted to give like i want like jay wright

917.508 - 941.659 Raja Bell

you know a lot of a lot of the dna of at least three of their major the major cogs in their wheel um you know played for championships under jay wright so like there's a there's a dna that's shared there from way back um they they know how to weather storms they know how to just play through things in that way i think you got to give him a lot of credit for that i do think tibbs and i'm not answering your question right now um

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That's always fascinating to me when someone gets a team like right there and they make that move and the next guy gets them over the hump.

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kudos to mike brown like i know that had to be super special and it is for him especially beating the calves who like let him in cleveland let him go in cleveland like that had to be super dope and and congrats mike but um i think tibbs has to you you have to give him some credit for for what he was able to do with that team and and positioning them so that mike could get them over the hump um you know i i don't offensively they're just teams

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