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The Ringer Fantasy Football Show

The Listener Take Purge

11 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the Listener Take Purge and how does it work?

19.977 - 36.901 Danny Heifetz

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korolbeck. And today is the listener take purge. We do the take purge every year, twice a year before the draft, before the season begins. But this year we actually had so many purges from all of our listeners. We actually had to do an entire episode.

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36.941 - 40.146 Danny Heifetz

Danny Kelly, can you explain for those that don't know what a purge is?

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40.126 - 51.383 Danny Kelly

A purge is a confession or some thought that you have just in the back of your mind. You're not really sure if you believe it or not. You maybe don't even think it's true, but you need to get it off your chest. It's intrusive.

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51.403 - 52.224 Danny Heifetz

It doesn't go away.

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52.845 - 53.326 Danny Kelly

Exactly.

53.546 - 60.116 Danny Heifetz

I guess that's what a take is. I guess the purge is the movie where crime is legal for 24 hours. And then we made a take purge where you can do takes.

60.136 - 69.61 Danny Kelly

To be clear, there's no consequences to getting these off your chest. That is the distinction. You can say whatever you want. No consequences professionally or personally or legally.

70.062 - 93.82 Craig Horlbeck

Yes, like Chris Sims, but he does that 24-7, 365 days a year, which is why he is the takeoff. He's living in there, yeah. His whole life is The Purge, which is why we dedicated two episodes a year to him. Did you guys know that there's a new rom-com coming out this summer that is essentially The Purge, but for sex, where you can only have sex one night a year? The movie's called One Night Only.

93.86 - 96.884 Danny Kelly

What? It's a rom-com? Why didn't we think of this, Craig?

Chapter 2: What are the implications of Patrick Mahomes' ACL injury?

636.134 - 643.382 Craig Horlbeck

That's not as bad as I... Kenneth Walker, Brees Hall, Mike Evans, but it's like... Just all the running backs. Running backs is funny. Jonathan Taylor is way down here.

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643.442 - 665.027 Danny Heifetz

Yeah. Well, the other funny one is just because of the rookie contract stuff where it's like you start looking and you're like, there are kickers that make more money than Jameer Gibbs. So it's just, it's funny. All right. Next take perch here. This is from Swish. Swish. S-Bone. S-Bone. He's a mod. Shout out S-Bone. S-Bone's take perch. We've already seen the best season of Jaden Daniels' career.

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666.053 - 672.46 Danny Kelly

I know, I'm worried about this a little bit. It's kind of tough. What are some good parallels to Jaden Daniels?

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672.58 - 676.745 Danny Heifetz

RG3. RG3? What are you fucking talking about? RG's RG4.

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676.845 - 680.89 Danny Kelly

TG up for that one. Okay, other than that, how about it?

680.95 - 686.196 Danny Heifetz

Other than a guy who set the rookie rushing record by a quarterback and then led his team to a remarkable playoff run?

686.797 - 688.178 Danny Kelly

Look, that's tough.

688.799 - 710.055 Danny Heifetz

No, the Jaden Daniels thing, I went back and I just was trying to recapture how good his rookie year was. Dude, double digit wins, first time for Washington in 30 years. He accounted for 31 touchdowns, almost 900 rushing yards. So it was like basically the most by a rookie quarterback. He had, I won't go through them all, but it was like five walk-off wins basically or fourth quarter comebacks.

710.596 - 731.228 Danny Heifetz

And then halfway through his rookie season. So basically if you just look at a team's first seven weeks of the season, And you look at just like EPA per play. So the best offenses ever. It's the 2000 Rams who won the Super Bowl to the 2007 Patriots who went 16-0, the 2018 Chiefs in Mahomes' first season, and then the 2024 Commanders, which was just the first seven games Jaden Daniels ever played.

Chapter 3: Why do running backs deserve more money in the NFL?

1282.217 - 1288.047 Craig Horlbeck

Like Josh Allen goes like five wide and just QB sneaks. Yeah. That's guaranteed four yards every time.

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1288.507 - 1291.192 Danny Kelly

Right. I feel like that could be sort of an edge.

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1291.212 - 1294.297 Danny Heifetz

Just do that the whole way down the field the entire game all season.

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1295.139 - 1295.359 Danny Kelly

Yeah. Yeah.

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1296.149 - 1299.214 Craig Horlbeck

It's a pretty good idea. And that's aesthetically pleasing football.

1299.395 - 1307.87 Danny Kelly

Get rid of the pomp and circumstance of the tosh push where everybody lines up and we wait like 15 seconds for them to snap the fucking ball. Just snap it quickly and get five yards.

1308.05 - 1311.676 Craig Horlbeck

If you guys could get rid of one part of the game, what would it be?

1313.8 - 1320.452 Danny Heifetz

Probably kicking. Like field goals? And punting. Yeah, it's like if field possession is so important, then don't fucking give it up.

1321.478 - 1325.117 Danny Kelly

I think field goals. I kind of like field goals. I don't like field goals.

Chapter 4: What are the standout qualities of Ben Shelton in tennis?

2701.825 - 2722.262 Danny Heifetz

Ben Shelton's really good. Ben Shelton is Riz and is young and he's going to be a star. I'm telling you right now, Ben Shelton's going to be a star. Okay. Is he dating someone? He does have Riz. Trinity Rodman. He's dating Trinity Rodman. Any relation to Dennis? Yes, his daughter. She's on the U.S. Women's National Soccer Team.

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2722.303 - 2728.213 Craig Horlbeck

You guys think more tennis players should tear their ACL? Are you surprised by that? It doesn't happen more? You never hear about that.

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2728.273 - 2729.395 Danny Kelly

Different biomechanics.

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2729.596 - 2734.024 Craig Horlbeck

It must be the way the game is played that is just less conducive.

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2734.244 - 2737.069 Danny Kelly

They're not getting hit by their quarterback when they're running out of bounds.

2737.289 - 2742.894 Craig Horlbeck

Yeah, I guess that's right. You just never hear about that. You never hear about Achilles or ACLs with tennis players.

Chapter 5: Why do tennis players rarely suffer from ACL injuries?

2743.154 - 2743.936 Craig Horlbeck

Knock on wood.

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2743.956 - 2752.498 Danny Kelly

I'm surprised Achilles isn't a thing. I feel like Achilles has got to be a thing. Yeah, I don't know. It's a young man's game, too.

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2753.187 - 2755.25 Craig Horlbeck

Well, some of the guys age pretty well.

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2755.27 - 2757.974 Danny Kelly

The elites can age better, but like for the most part.

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2758.415 - 2770.374 Craig Horlbeck

Being a pro tennis player would be awesome. I feel like the body type is great. It ages really nicely. You're just like so thin and lean. You're like usually long and thin and you're just like running around. You're in great cardiovascular shape.

2770.534 - 2772.097 Danny Kelly

You're just on the Mediterranean diet.

2772.437 - 2780.73 Craig Horlbeck

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sounds great. You have like some sick European watch sponsorship. Hell yeah. If you're good, it's great.

2782.027 - 2786.392 Danny Heifetz

The, it would be, I'd rather be, would you rather be a pro golfer or a tennis player? I feel like baseball.

2786.412 - 2791.257 Craig Horlbeck

The thing about golf is golf just seems like you're always fucking golfing. And it's just like.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of being a professional athlete in various sports?

2798.726 - 2800.548 Craig Horlbeck

If you couldn't leave heaven, is it still heaven?

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2800.788 - 2807.095 Danny Heifetz

Imagine all your golf stress. And imagine how stressed you get about golf. But imagine if it was for work.

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2807.515 - 2807.655 Craig Horlbeck

I know.

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2807.675 - 2811.179 Danny Heifetz

And imagine if all of your, if being bad at golf meant you sucked at your job.

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2811.44 - 2811.78 Craig Horlbeck

Yeah.

2811.76 - 2825.676 Danny Heifetz

And then suddenly you're like, oh my God, maybe this wouldn't be super fun. Basketball, clearly, I think basketball is at a tier of its own. Being an NBA player, you're paid so much money to not fucking play. It is unbelievable. You can get two or three million dollars. You might not play a whole season.

2826.137 - 2830.141 Craig Horlbeck

And like, that just seems like the life. You have to be practicing all the fucking time.

2830.482 - 2831.403 Danny Heifetz

Yeah, exactly.

2831.543 - 2833.205 Danny Kelly

I think tennis is like that too, Craig.

Chapter 7: How does the conversation shift to the topic of food and personal preferences?

2884.855 - 2892.566 Danny Heifetz

I forget what the event is. She just tries hard. Why is anyone good at anything? No, but it's different. I think it's the 1500s.

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2892.586 - 2894.67 Danny Kelly

I'll Google it. Why is Katie Ledecky?

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2894.69 - 2897.696 Danny Heifetz

No, but she has the 18 of the top 20 times ever.

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2898.077 - 2898.458 Danny Kelly

Yeah.

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2898.478 - 2908.517 Danny Heifetz

Like she literally, it's like the best 20 times ever in this event. It's just, it's like the highest rated programs every year. It's like football. She's like the football of long distance swimming.

2908.818 - 2911.343 Craig Horlbeck

But you're asking why is she so good at it?

2911.508 - 2928.546 Danny Heifetz

Even Michael Phelps, no one's ever done in swimming what she's done with this event. It's like, no, Tiger Woods doesn't have the top 20 scores at Augusta National at the majors. Like, Michael Phelps never had the top 20 times at an event. Like, it's not like she held the world record. It's like, everyone else is behind her 17th best time.

2928.907 - 2947.478 Danny Kelly

Like, that's not a thing. Do you want to know what Gemini says about this, iFitz? So, there's a unique... She has a unique combination of aerobic capacity, highly efficient gallop stroke technique, which apparently... Hold on. She has, she's a physical freak. She has, well, she does have broad shoulders apparently, which helps.

2947.999 - 2969.325 Danny Kelly

Uh, but she has, unlike many swimmers who rely on a strong kick, Ledecky often uses a two beat kick, allowing her to conserve energy in her legs while using her upper body and core, uh, to keep her body horizontal and reduce drag. So there's, maybe there is some biomechanics about, obviously with, with, uh, with Michael Phelps, like he was born to be a swimmer in terms of just his body type. He

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