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Chapter 1: Why did Mike Tomlin step down as head coach of the Steelers?
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Chapter 2: What are the potential next steps for Mike Tomlin?
I'm your host, Sheil Kapadia. Breaking news in the NFL. On Tuesday, Mike Tomlin stepping down as the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach after 19 years. A huge move with ripple effects around the NFL. We're going to talk about the different angles. What does Mike Tomlin do? Should anyone try to trade for him? Is he going to join the NFL? TV? Is he going to join the podcasting world?
Is there something else he's going to do? We're going to get to all of it with my guest today, the ringers, Billy Gill. Let's take a break. We will come back with Billy. The Ringer NFL show is presented by FanDuel. FanDuel's got it all. Same game parlays, quick bets for jumping in live and your way so you can build the bet that fits your play.
Chapter 3: What are the pros and cons of hiring Mike Tomlin as a head coach?
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Chapter 4: Could Mike Tomlin transition to a television role?
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Chapter 5: What Netflix show ideas did the hosts pitch?
Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. All right, we are back here on the Ringer NFL show talking Mike Tomlin with our friend Billy Gil. Billy, I feel like there are three ways this goes here with Mike Tomlin. I want to get into all of them.
One is he gets traded and he's coaching somewhere next year in the NFL, not with the Steelers, but somewhere else. That's one option. Option number two. sits out a year, two years, maybe three years, but eventually he comes back. He coaches in the NFL. And then option number three, he goes the Bill Cower route. And he's just like, you know what? TV's kind of fun. Nice lifestyle.
I'm not going to coach at all. So I want to get into all three of those. Let's start with the first one. OK, because this was surprising news.
Chapter 6: What teams could potentially trade for Mike Tomlin?
He steps down. The Steelers have his rights. So if another team wants to hire Mike Tomlin, they have to trade for him. What do you think about the likelihood of this? Is there a team out there that you say, hey, maybe one of these teams, there's eight openings out there. Maybe one of these teams, Cardinals, Falcons, Ravens, Browns, Raiders, Dolphins, Giants, Titans.
Maybe one of these teams says, you know what? I'm going to trade for Mike Tomlin.
Okay, so do we want to do this logically or do we want to do this like fantasy land in terms of like which is most likely? Because here's how I look at this situation.
If you want to do this logically, what it took to get Sean Payton, you know, from the Saints to the Broncos was a first round pick, a second round pick, and then the Saints sent over a third round pick to Denver as part of the deal. So you're looking at a one and a two, right? But... you'd have to be a team that is already set at like the quarterback position, you would think, right?
If you're thinking logically, because if you're a team in full rebuild mode, it wouldn't make sense to trade a high draft pick or high first rounder to get Tomlin if you still have holes on the actual team, right? That's my thinking.
Well, it's a great question. Like, what does Mike Tomlin want? Is he just like, man, I'm sick of being in the same spot for 19 years. I still want to coach, but I just want something new.
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Chapter 7: How might Mike Tomlin's coaching philosophy adapt in a new environment?
You know, sometimes we want something new in life. It could be that, but it could be, I think you're right. I think more logically, he's probably like, all right, if I'm going to go somewhere, I want to be there for a while. I want to win. I want to get out of the first round. So I should probably look for somewhere that has a great quarterback situation. And other than Baltimore...
I don't know that there's a place that has a great quarterback situation.
I think the Giants have an okay quarterback situation, right? I mean, I would definitely avoid Cleveland if I'm him. I don't know that this is like hot take territory. We're just going like, let's go over at 15. Like, you don't want to go to the Raiders if you want to do that.
Mike Tomlin, it wouldn't make sense to me if we're going to have a serious thinking discussion here as to where he might go. It wouldn't make sense to me for Mike Tomlin to take a bad job where he's going to have to rebuild a team when his whole thing has been having a winning record every year of his 19 year head coaching career, right?
Why would he leave where he's been to then go take on a rebuild project and go four and 13 or something? You know, like that wouldn't make any sense. So you have to go a place like you're saying where you have the pieces. It's just you need a change of scenery, which is kind of where you said it.
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Chapter 8: What makes Mike Tomlin a desirable candidate for future coaching roles?
And we've kind of hinted at it for a couple of weeks. Baltimore is looking pretty good there, Sheil.
Well, did you see that Steve Bishotti was asked about this? Yeah, you saw that and he said, wouldn't that be interesting? Only if John Harbaugh takes the Pittsburgh job. So Steve Bishotti, Ravens owner, thank you for listening to the Ringer NFL show because Billy had this idea, what, like two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
Honestly, you know what's funny about this, Billy, is that we were joking about it and Bishotti's joking about it. It actually would make sense from a football perspective.
It's not the craziest thing in the world. And he was even joking about it. But when they ask him, they broke the news to him because the news came out while he was in the middle of that press conference. So he didn't actually have time to think about it and give a response where it's almost like he goes back and he's like, would that be the craziest thing in the world?
Like it, maybe this is something we want to do. And because of the fact that they barely missed the playoffs, I mean, I'd have to look, but you're looking at like a mid first round draft pick that you're giving up. You already have a quarterback. You already have a running back.
Like you've had to play him all these times. Now I don't think that the Steelers would actually do that. I think they would probably, they're going to say we're not, no, we're not trading him to the Ravens. But what if the Ravens are the only team that offers Ravens? and they look at it and say, all right, you know, if that's what you want to do, then go ahead and do it.
Maybe they say no hard feelings. You know, it's like a breakup type thing. You know, you tell them, hey, we had a great— Those don't always go well, though. They don't always go well. Do they ever go well?
I mean, sometimes. Okay, so maybe it's one of those. Maybe it's a situation where like both partners are cheating on each other. So it's kind of like, that's just, what are we doing here? But I don't think that that was the case here. But we did talk like, did Tomlin want to win last week? Did he want to lose last week? And now he goes and he steps down, which...
I think this season we have seen like a record number of like words used for the splitting up, right? It's like parted ways, stepping down. Then there's been the firings. It's been every like cinnamon in the book we've seen so far for coaches not being coaches of their teams anymore.
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