The Russell Brunson Show
Winning the War of Art: Overcoming Resistance with Steven Pressfield
Wed, 27 Nov 2024
On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive deep into the theme of resistance with insights drawn from one of my all-time favorite books, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Resistance is that unseen force that stops us from doing what we’re meant to do—whether it’s starting a business, creating content, or pursuing personal growth. In this two-part episode, you’ll hear the highlights from my YouTube video about overcoming resistance and then a special hour-long interview I had with Steven Pressfield himself. It’s a must-listen for anyone looking to win the daily battle against their internal obstacles. Steven and I explore how resistance manifests in our lives, its deceptive lies, and the strategies to defeat it. We also discuss Steven’s personal journey, his groundbreaking works, and his profound insights into creative endeavors. This conversation will resonate not just with writers and artists, but with entrepreneurs, athletes, and anyone striving to live their calling. Key Highlights: Exposing Resistance: Recognize resistance as the enemy holding you back and learn how to map out its attacks in your daily life. The Lies We Believe: Uncover resistance’s tactics, like procrastination, shadow callings, and settling for temporary pleasures. The Bigger the Dream, the Bigger the Resistance: Why significant goals attract greater obstacles—and why that’s a sign you’re on the right track. Turning Pro: Learn how shifting your mindset from amateur to professional is the antidote to overcoming resistance. Steven’s Wisdom: Hear Steven’s stories, from his early struggles to finding his calling, and how he channels creativity through disciplined action. This episode is packed with transformative advice for conquering resistance and stepping into your highest potential. Tune in, take notes, and let’s beat resistance together! And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out https://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
Reading about something all day long, but not actually doing it. Right? How many of us are reading and listening to podcasts and going through the motions, but we're never actually doing the thing that we're called to do? Okay? Another one, I have so many friends who get in this trap where they go to school.
They keep going to school and they keep going to school and they're so scared to get out of the school system because they don't want to actually do the work. And then lie number four, this is one step deeper than... als eine Schattenklinge, wenn du in der Sache bist. Schritt Nummer vier, Lied Nummer vier, ist literally volle Sedation.
Wenn du nur sediert bist, versuchst du nicht mal auf den Traum zu fokussieren, du bekommst Drogen und Alkohol, alles, um dein Gehirn wegzunehmen von dem Schmerz, dass du nicht in deine Klinge lebst. Also, diese sind die Liede, die die Resistenz dir gibt, um dich nicht in deine echte Klinge zu stecken. Okay, seid ihr bereit für Schritt Nummer drei, wie man Resistenz gewinnen kann?
Dieser ist einer meiner Lieblings von allen Zeiten. Dieser ist wirklich cool. Es heißt... The bigger the dream, the bigger the resistance. I hear people say all the time, they come to me like, hey Russell, I want to do this thing, but man, there were so many obstacles, so many things that were happening, that there must be a sign, this is not something for me to actually do.
If I was supposed to do this, it would be easier. And so they step away from their calling because of the trials and the headaches and the heartaches that come when they're trying to pursue the thing. Right? And this is the reality. That's not true. The opposite is actually true. Now, I was lucky enough after reading this book and freaking out because it's one of my favorites of all time.
I messaged the author, Steven Pressfield. I said, can I interview you for a few minutes? I want to find out some more stuff about resistance, how I can beat it inside of my own life. And luckily for me and for you, he said yes. And so I actually have a clip over here of Steven Pressfield from my interview.
And I want to show this clip specifically because he's talking about this concept of the bigger the dream you have, the bigger resistance is going to be. So with that said, let's check out this clip from the man himself, Steven Pressfield.
Imagine a tree in the middle of a sunny meadow. The minute the tree appears, a shadow appears. And the shadow is equal to the tree, right? If it's a big tree, it's a big shadow. So in the terms of resistance, the tree is the dream that you have. The book you want to write, the venture you want to do, whatever. And resistance is the shadow.
So there would not, what I want to say is resistance always comes second. There would be no resistance if there wasn't a dream, if there wasn't a calling that was inside you. So the good news of that is when you're feeling big resistance, that big shadow, Das zeigt, dass es einen großen Baum gibt.
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Chapter 2: How can I identify and overcome resistance?
Oh yeah, it's pretty crazy. But I think for me, again, reading your book is so big for me, because it became such a tangible thing, that now I can almost call it, like, resistance, you're not going to win this time. As opposed to before, again, you feel guilty, or you feel unworthy, or...
diese Gefühle wie, oh Mann, ich habe es wieder kaputt gemacht, ich habe es nicht wieder gemacht, versus, nein, das ist nicht ich, das ist eine externe Kraft, ich muss kämpfen, ich muss gewinnen. Und zumindest für mich hat es es gemacht, es hat es mehr Spaß gemacht, mehr managable, als ich es konnte, wissend davon zu sein.
Weißt du, was ich meine? Lass mich hier eine Sache ausdrücken, die vielleicht, vielleicht wirst du mich etwas über das fragen, aber vielleicht ist das, was ich jetzt sagen möchte, vielleicht sehr hilfreich für jeden, der darüber nachdenkt. Und das ist, dass Imagine a tree in the middle of a sunny meadow. The minute the tree appears, a shadow appears. And the shadow is equal to the tree, right?
If it's a big tree, it's a big shadow. So in the terms of resistance, the tree is the dream that you have. The book you want to write, the venture you want to do, whatever. And resistance is the shadow. So there would not, what I want to say is resistance always comes second. Es gäbe keine Resistenz, wenn es nicht ein Traum gewesen wäre, wenn es nicht ein Anruf im Inneren gewesen wäre.
Das Gute davon ist, dass wenn du eine große Resistenz fühlst, diese große Schattung, dann zeigt das, dass da ein großer Baum ist. Es gibt große Träume, denn die Resistenz kommt immer, wie Newton's drittes Gesetz der Bewegung, eine gleiche und die gleiche Reaktion. Es ist eine Reaktion zu einer Aspiration. zu einem Buch, das du schreiben möchtest, oder einem Film, was auch immer es ist.
Also, nicht überrascht werden, würde ich sagen, von diesem dunklen Mond, dieser dunklen Schatten, ist ein Beweis, dass der Traum wirklich ist und groß ist.
such a cool thing. I think a lot of people look at it the opposite way, where they feel resistance, like I guess I'm not supposed to do this, this is a sign that I'm not supposed to do it, versus like the opposite, you just said it's a sign that you are, that the dream is big enough to actually pursue. That's fascinating. So cool.
Okay, so the next thing I want to talk about, because we're talking about resistance, what it feels like. I think one of the things, I can't remember, again, I've read all these books again in the last month, so I might mess up which book to reference, but everyone should buy all of them and just get them all, because they're amazing.
I think it was in War of Arts, we talked about some of the ways that resistance shows up, and one of them that was so interesting was, you call it the unlived life, where... Das ist das, was es versucht zu erzeugen. Ist das richtig? Erklärst du mir, was das unbewusste Leben ist und wie das durchschaut, weil es resistent ist?
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