The Story Behind Difficult People
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Hello, my friends. Welcome back to the Ryan Leak Podcast, where we love to keep things short and sweet for you each and every week. This week's episode, I believe, at least my hope is, that it would give you empathy for a difficult person in your life. I don't know who your difficult person is. I don't know if you're married to this person. I don't know if it is the parent. of the person you married, could be an in-law, could be a colleague, could be a boss, could be a neighbor, could be somebody you go to church with. It could be somebody that cuts you off at the grocery store. You name the person. And my hope is that over the next 10 to 12 minutes that we have together,
How can understanding someone's backstory improve our empathy?
That somewhere in your mind, somewhere in your heart, you would actually grow in your empathy for a difficult person. Today's episode is entitled, The Story Behind Difficult People.
Now, I have what I like to call a corporate superpower.
And my corporate superpower is I can get just about anybody to tell me how they're really doing. For some odd reason, if you drop me into a boardroom, a conference, a green room, or a random airport lounge, somehow, someway,
people start telling me how they are really doing.
I'm not talking about my friends, okay? No, I'm not talking about my family. I'm talking about complete strangers go from zero to 100. And maybe in the TMI world, you know, where it's too much information, we don't call that keeping it 100.
What is PostSecret and how does it relate to difficult people?
That's like 110. You're like, I don't even think I should know that. But for some odd reason,
I tend to get the real person, not the LinkedIn version. Not the, I'm doing great. I'm doing good. Yeah, everything's good. Family's good.
No, I don't get the polished people. I don't get the highlight reel version of human beings.
What are some revealing secrets shared by people about their struggles?
I get the honest version. And here's what I've learned. People are not doing nearly as well. as their LinkedIn profile might suggest. People are not doing nearly as well as their Christmas photo might tell you otherwise. People are not doing nearly as well as their vacation Instagram post might otherwise sell you on this belief that life is just a beach in their world. That's not the case. And what I have come to learn from hundreds and thousands of conversations is that behind every difficult person is a difficult story. In college, I was exposed to a rather interesting book at Barnes & Noble.
How can we recognize the signs of someone in distress?
And there's a website and there's been different versions of this book that comes out in a variety of different ways every couple of years, I think. It's called Post-Secret. PostSecret. It's created by Frank Warren. Interestingly enough, he started this over a decade ago where people would anonymously mail in postcards with secrets that they had never told anyone. No names. but also no filters, just raw truth. And so he posted his address or PO box, if you will, on a blog, I think it was, over a decade ago. And people would just send him the most insane secrets that... That would just blow your mind.
What does the concept of sonder teach us about others?
And what I would actually do is I would buy, it's kind of like a picture book. So the graphic design is remarkable. The artwork is incredible. And I would actually leave it on my coffee table in college in my apartment because I wanted it to be a reminder of why I do what I do. Like there are a lot of people in the world who are hurting. And I would always just kind of flip through it as a reminder of like, man, people are not doing as well as they would tell you. And so it just would challenge me to take conversations just a little bit deeper. If you picked up this book, you would... You'd cry, I think. I'm not a big crier, but you would have a deep moment.
How can curiosity about others' stories change our perspective?
How about that? Okay, we're not going to take you all the way to tears, but there are things in that book that you go, could I possibly be working with somebody who feels that way? I wrote down just a couple, just for you to be able to get what I'm trying to tell you here. One guy wrote, I smile at work every day, but I haven't felt happy in years. Another person wrote, my biggest fear is that I'll live an ordinary life and no one will ever really know me.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:58
2
How can understanding someone's backstory improve our empathy?
0:58–2:17
3
What is PostSecret and how does it relate to difficult people?
2:17–2:44
4
What are some revealing secrets shared by people about their struggles?
2:44–3:39
5
How can we recognize the signs of someone in distress?
3:39–4:37
6
What does the concept of sonder teach us about others?
4:37–5:25
7
How can curiosity about others' stories change our perspective?
5:25–6:36
8
Why is compassion important when dealing with difficult people?
6:36–14:30