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Bernadette of Lourdes: Episode Five

17 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What events lead to the crowd's unrest at the grotto?

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The crowds at the grotto swell and the authorities prepare for a riot. Will Bernadette's visions end in violent insurrection? When soldiers arrive to impose control, disaster looms. What will it take now to bring peace to the village of Lourdes?

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23.318 - 26.967 Peter Atkinson

The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage.

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Chapter 2: What challenges does Bernadette face from the authorities?

27.669 - 37.193 Peter Atkinson

Bernadette of Lourdes, Episode 5, Her Name. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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44.193 - 76.958 Bernadette

Lynette, will you help me study my catechism? It's no use, Bernadette. You mix it up every time. Please? Today is the last day of class. If I get it right, I will receive First Communion on Sunday. Fine. Here, give me the book. I'll test you. Here. Okay, what are the attributes of God? All-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful. Yes! Perfect! Now, what happens at the consecration?

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79.062 - 111.592 Bernadette

Uh, well, um... Come on, just answer the question. What happens at the consecration? Uh, that... That's during the long prayer. Ay, Bernadette! That's the part of the Mass when the priest picks up the host andβ€” Ah! And it becomes Jesus! Yes, but what's the word for it? It becomes Jesus' body. Body, blood, soul, and divinity. Yes, and divinity. And what's the big word to describe it?

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112.313 - 133.463 Bernadette

Father Permal is definitely going to ask you. Consecration? Oh, Bernadette, stop guessing! I... I forget. I studied it, but I forgot it. Transubstantiation. What does it mean? It is written right here, Bernadette. Stop trying, Bernadette.

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Chapter 3: How does Bernadette prepare for her First Communion?

134.104 - 151.133 Bernadette

It's a waste of time. You'll never learn it. And why do you even need to? You're a visionary now. But, Toinette. Salute, Bernadette. I'm going to go play with my friends. I want to receive communion. I have to study.

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Why? What has changed that you can't even get work for a day? My daughter is the little visionary. The crowds at Massabielle scare the employers. They think I'm part of this. A rabble-rouser. A good-for-nothing that will cause trouble. God have mercy on us. Will we never get out of this prison cell? I'm sorry, Louise. I will try again tomorrow. Where are you going? Outside. Bernadette? Yes?

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Do you see what you're doing to our family? Only two more days, Mama. Couldn't you stop today? Just stop going to the grotto? If the lady is good, she'll understand.

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202.169 - 206.614 Bernadette

No, I promised the lady I'd come for 14 days.

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I wish you'd never come back from Baht. That's how all of this began.

212.502 - 222.615 Bernadette

Memo, will you come to the grotto with me today? I have laundry. It will only be a half hour. All right, I'll come.

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she come in? I missed it yesterday. I tried to bring my husband, but he refused. He's intimidated by the crowds. I see Bernadette. Bernadette, pray for my sister. Pray for my husband. Bernadette, give me a rosary. I'll give you this one of gold instead. No.

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Merci, Madame Catherine. Bless us, Bernadette.

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Pray for us. Ask the priest to bless you. Give me a kerchief, little visionary. I want a relic of the saint from Lourdes. Stop grabbing my daughter. She is just a girl, not a saint. Leave the child alone. Bernard, I'm glad you're here. Let me through. I'm her mother. Quiet. She's praying. The rosary again.

Chapter 4: What role does family conflict play in Bernadette's journey?

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Giacome, she said the lady is the Immaculate Conception. I ran all the way here to tell you, Giacome. Send the soldiers away. The Virgin Mary is appearing at Massabielle. And you believe this little visionary father? The girl is practically illiterate. And the people attracted to Massabielle are as ignorant as she is. They are a threat to the safety of Lourdes. And so is this foolish visionary.

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Listen, Giacome, Bernadette must be telling the truth. The Immaculate Conception is a dogma that the Pope recently proclaimed. The teaching is simple, but that term, Bernadette could not have known it. Oh, and so you believe she's seeing the Blessed Virgin because she knows a new term?

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Chapter 5: How do the villagers react to Bernadette's visions?

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Yes, and because I have seen the miracles. Catherine Latapie's paralyzed hand was healed when she washed it in the spring. I gave little Justin Bourreau last rites, and then his mother took him to the grotto. She plunged him into the spring, and he was healed. Louis Boiret had his sight restored after he washed his eyes in the water. Christ's healing power is present at Massapiel.

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The Immaculate Conception appeared at Massaviel? Yes! Our Blessed Mother is not afraid of our sins. She goes right to the site of all our shame, Giacome. But the crowds? They could become violent when the apparitions end. Tomorrow is the 15th day. The girl says that's the last time the lady will appear. And what happens after? I am sending a report of the apparitions to the bishop.

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If they are approved by the church, I will build the chapel the lady asked for and lead the procession. Do what you must. But until they are approved, I will do as I see fit to keep order in Lourdes. As you should. The soldiers are building a barricade around Massabielle as we speak. Anyone who visits the grotto will be arrested. Very good, Marie. Bernadette, your turn next.

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523.68 - 524.341 Bernadette

Yes, Father.

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Do you know the lesson?

527.084 - 528.846 Bernadette

I spent all night studying it.

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Good. I'll ask one question. The last one for the lesson. What happens at the consecration, my child?

542.292 - 553.86 Bernadette

The host and wine change to... To the body and blood of Jesus, soul and divinity, under the appearances of bread and wine.

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Yes? And that is called?

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