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Bernadette of Lourdes: Episode Two

14 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: How does poverty affect the Soubirous family?

1.583 - 22.208 Narrator

Bitter poverty tears the Soubirous family apart. Desperate to serve her quarreling parents, Bernadette goes to gather firewood. But at the dark, forbidden grotto of Massabier, she encounters an unexpected and disturbing vision. Could it be from heaven? Or is it from some other place?

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28.516 - 51.777 Peter Atkinson

The Saints. Adventures of Faith and Courage. Bernadette of Lourdes. Episode 2, God or the Devil. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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Chapter 2: What vision does Bernadette encounter at the grotto?

51.797 - 73.002 Toinette

Bernadette, look in the grotto. A lady. What lady? Don't play tricks on me, Bernadette. There was a lady in the grotto. She was young and dressed in white. She had a blue ribbon tied around her waist and she smiled at me. I was afraid and pulled out my rosary and... Antoinette, did you notice the wind?

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72.982 - 104.72 Toinette

there wasn't any wind she disappeared when you called my name just disappeared yes did she say anything to you no she just smiled at me come on bernadette if you're going to make up a story to get out of gathering wood at least make it interesting i am not making it up you do look pale but what's so scary about a smiling lady oh do you think it was the devil no No, she was good. How do you know?

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105.321 - 132.133 Toinette

She took out a rosary when I started mine. She made the sign of the cross and smiled, but she didn't say the prayers. Now that's not a good sign. She was good, Toinette. Another vision in Massabielle? Everyone would be excited to hear about it, if it's true. No, Twinette, we must not tell anyone. Oh, come on. Please. Fine, I won't tell. I don't know if I even believe you anyway.

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136.717 - 151.572 Father Permal

Children, children, children. In a few months, you will receive First Holy Communion. To prepare, you must study your catechism and recite your lessons. Let's begin by reviewing the questions.

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151.703 - 152.664 Toinette

Father Permal!

153.225 - 154.166 Father Permal

What are you doing here?

154.427 - 156.189 Toinette

I want to receive First Communion.

156.489 - 158.472 Father Permal

If you pass your lessons, you may.

158.632 - 159.594 Toinette

Thank you, Father.

Chapter 3: How do Bernadette and Toinette test the lady's origins?

245.998 - 246.98 Father Permal

Class dismissed.

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252.288 - 279.255 Toinette

Bernadette! Bernadette! Psst! Come here! What are you doing here? I have a plan. Look, I filled the bottle with holy water. We could throw it at the lady, and then we'll know if she's from the devil or from God. I... I don't know. Come on! If you really saw something... I did. Then she might come back. At least we could try. Okay. But we can't stay for long. Mamaw will be looking for us.

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280.016 - 316.393 Toinette

Then let's run! Wait for me! Catch me! Is it right to use holy water at Massabielle? Why wouldn't it be? It's not a holy place. We're using it to scare away the devil. That's a good reason. Is she there? No. Well, she'd better hurry up. She might not come back. Let's try praying the rosary. All right. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, I believe in God.

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317.194 - 348.758 Toinette

The Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary. Bernadette! Bernadette! Why do you look like that? Is she here? Is the lady here, Bernadette? Look at me! Is she good? I'm sprinkling the holy water. Bernadette! Help! Help! Bernadette is dying! She won't look at me!

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350.961 - 351.501 Uncle André

What happened?

352.383 - 357.128 Toinette

Uncle André, help me! Bernadette is in a fit! She's dying!

358.069 - 359.431 Uncle André

She is in a trance!

359.811 - 361.413 Toinette

We have to get her to my mom!

361.693 - 374.803 Uncle André

Calm down, Toinette. See? She is breathing. I will carry her. She's still looking straight ahead at... something.

Chapter 4: What challenges does Bernadette face in catechism class?

405.665 - 407.509 Aunt Bernarde

It did her so much good.

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408.33 - 413.839 Toinette

Maman! Maman! Oh, Aunt Bernal! Bernadette is dying!

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413.859 - 415.883 Aunt Bernarde

What are you talking about, child?

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416.343 - 430.607 Toinette

She's at Massabielle! Is she alone? Uncle André is carrying her to the house! Carrying her? What's wrong with her legs? She won't talk to me. She just stares straight ahead. Come, she's dying.

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431.269 - 442.868 Aunt Bernarde

Why was she at Massabielle, Toinette? Because, because I... Control yourself, Toinette. Now take a deep breath and tell us what happened.

442.848 - 450.796 Toinette

She saw a lady in the grotto yesterday, so I told her we should go back and test if it was from God or the devil.

450.836 - 469.556 Unknown

Slow down! She saw what? Bernadette is just making a scene, Bernard. She wants attention. I thought we'd throw holy water at the grotto. Then we'd know if it was a good vision or bad. A vision? She's making it up. Luis!

470.437 - 482.612 Aunt Bernarde

Bring her inside. Toinette? She's alive! Put her down on the bed.

484.235 - 485.416 Uncle André

Do you want a doctor?

Chapter 5: What plan do Toinette and Bernadette devise regarding the lady?

548.557 - 554.26 Toinette

The lady asked me to. She wants me to return every day for 14 days.

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559.572 - 583.133 Peter Atkinson

Hi, this is Peter Atkinson from The Mary Beggars. Tune in to Episode 3, The Lady's Request, to hear the next installment of Bernadette of Lourdes. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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