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Jeanne Jugan: Episode Four

23 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What challenges does Jeanne face in her new mission?

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Saint-Servant, France, 1838. Jeanne and her friends have found a new place to live so they can help the poor and elderly in their care. But they have no idea how they'll afford the rent. What will happen to Jeanne's newfound mission if Faith can't pay the bills?

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28.162 - 42.304 Peter Atkinson

The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage. Jean Jougon. Episode 4, The Begging Basket. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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Turn it, turn it. Left, left, left. The other way.

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Chapter 2: How does Jeanne plan to support the poor and elderly?

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They want these. Please be careful moving that bed frame, monsieur. It's fragile. We're always careful, madame. We appreciate your help. Oh, Zhen, after all our hard work cleaning up this place, we're finally moving in!

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65.137 - 73.566 Jeanne Jugan

God is good, Fengsheng. Zhen, where should I put this cooking pot? Set it on the table for now, Marie. Thank you. Where's Madeleine?

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Bringing in the linens. I'm off to the kitchen. I want to make sure everything's put in the right place. But I'm still worried, Zhen. This place is perfect, but what if we can't pay for it?

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86.701 - 100.98 Brother Remy

What ifβ€” Excuse me. Yes? Is Madame Zhen Zhugan here? That's Zhen. I'll be in the kitchen. How can I help you? My name is Brother Remy. I belong to the Brothers of St. John of God.

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101.701 - 103.283 Jeanne Jugan

Oh yes, I've heard of your order.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the begging basket in Jeanne's mission?

103.883 - 106.667 Jeanne Jugan

You work with the sick. Please, come in.

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107.153 - 111.359 Brother Remy

Thank you. We've heard about your work as well. I see you're just moving in.

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111.959 - 119.009 Jeanne Jugan

Thanks to the good God who has provided a larger home, now we'll be able to take in more poor elderly who need us.

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120.05 - 123.254 Brother Remy

Have you figured out a way to pay the rent, how to clothe and feed everyone?

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123.855 - 127.5 Jeanne Jugan

We trust in the Lord's providence, as I'm sure you do.

127.98 - 132.486 Brother Remy

We do. In fact, it's the Lord who sent me here to give you this.

132.526 - 136.131 Jeanne Jugan

That's a very large basket.

136.162 - 148.585 Brother Remy

Oh, it has to be large. It's a begging basket. This is the way we take care of all of our expenses. People give us food, clothing, money, whatever they can spare to help the sick. The Lord never fails to fill it.

149.347 - 186.27 Jeanne Jugan

A begging basket. I like that. Thank you, Brother Remy. What do you want? We feed and clothe the elderly poor. I wonder if you could... Can anyone spare food for the poor? Old clothing? Money, if you have it?

Chapter 4: How does faith play a role in Jeanne's endeavors?

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Here, take this.

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348.686 - 389.307 Jeanne Jugan

That's very generous of you, monsieur. May the Lord continue to bless you as you bless others. Zhen! Your basket is overflowing! It was a good day! Thanks be to God! We have company? That new priest, Father Lepayur. Really? I wonder what he wants. Father Lepayur, what a nice surprise.

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389.908 - 393.412 Father Lepayur

Your new home is perfect, Jen. Large enough for everyone.

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393.853 - 395.394 Jeanne Jugan

Yes, we love it.

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395.515 - 400.14 Father Lepayur

Virginie and Fanchon were just telling me how you go begging every day.

400.289 - 411.136 Jeanne Jugan

It's not what I'd planned on, but the good God has His own plans. Today, thankfully, people were exceptionally generous. May the Lord be praised.

411.276 - 421.548 Father Lepayur

Yes, it seems that more and more people in Saint-Servant are hearing about what you're doing. Which is why I'm here. Our curΓ© has assigned me to be your advisor.

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Our advisor?

423.329 - 428.555 Father Lepayur

Yes. He and I think what you're doing is worthy of the Church's approval and help.

Chapter 5: What obstacles does Jeanne encounter while begging for help?

522.164 - 522.865 Father Lepayur

Sorry I'm late.

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525.709 - 527.913 Brother Remy

That's all right, Father. Let me take your coat.

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529.295 - 537.148 Father Lepayur

Thank you, Madeline. Hello, everyone. It's good to see you all again.

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537.415 - 544.145 Jeanne Jugan

It's good to see you, Father. Please, have a seat. What was it you wanted to discuss?

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544.626 - 546.048 Father Lepayur

Forming a society.

546.689 - 547.53 Jeanne Jugan

A society?

547.77 - 559.748 Father Lepayur

Yes. First of all, the number of poor elderly your housing continues to grow. Thanks to the good God. Second, I'm hearing from young women who tell me they'd like to help the five of you take care of them.

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Wonderful!

562.019 - 587.79 Father Lepayur

It is, Marie. But because of these two factors, Monseigneur Boucher and I feel that we need to put in writing the way of life you envision for your members. Is that necessary? In our opinion, it is. A formal organization? That would be best. Guidelines must be drawn up and a name must be decided on. What would you like to call yourselves?

Chapter 6: How do the townspeople react to Jeanne's requests for aid?

588.175 - 592.241 Jeanne Jugan

This is all so sudden, Father. We need time to think it over.

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592.321 - 594.684 Father Lepayur

Begin thinking about your religious names as well.

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You mean, as in an order?

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597.228 - 600.793 Father Lepayur

Yes, Virginie. And a superior must be elected.

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Absolutely. There's no question. That's easy. Our superior would be Zhen. I completely agree. Wait a minute. We haven't finished discussing this. Zhen Zhugan, you're the most humble person I know. But if we're going to begin a congregation, an order, you'll be our superior because none of this would have happened without you. Well said. None of us and none of our poor would be here without you.

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But... No buts, Zhen. You have just become our superior.

639.796 - 652.6 Peter Atkinson

Hi, this is Peter Atkinson from The Mary Beggars. Tune in to Episode 5, To the Motherhouse, to hear the final episode of Jean Jougon. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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The Mary Beggars is the entertainment division of Relevant Radio.

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