Chapter 1: What led to Arsenal's championship victory after 22 years?
the second captain's world service it is not war and death and famine it's not that at all it's the opposite of that it's to persuade there's a world outside of that that's why sports are important
Champions again after 22 long years. Yesterday was not a day for football journalists coming on the Second Captain's World Service with their detailed tactical analysis. This was a day for the Arsenal fans. Arsenal Football Club, lad. We got in touch with a friend of the show, the great Darryl Breen.
Don't try to question my fan base.
Don't try to question my fan base. There he is there, a star. And screen rots Jacob Hawley.
Are you booking me to me? Relax. Are you booking me to me? Are you booking me to me?
He just gets a bit wound up, does Jacob.
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Chapter 2: How do fans feel about the 'choker' narrative surrounding Arsenal?
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revise your opinion of all this stuff the minute the final result comes through and I think it has exposed generally because obviously I've been so absorbed in this I've been listening to every podcast and every discussion about all that and I think the whole thing is a terrible way to consume sport especially in league
Because the comparison is if you did a scientific test to find if a heart drug worked, you know, you gather loads of different data points. And then at the end, you know, but you don't do a podcast after every data point. And then question how this changes the narrative for the drug, which is what we do. We consume all this like, oh, my God, there's a draw there. What does this mean?
And you're going bigger picture. It's absolutely lost. There's no sense of a bigger picture.
Well, yeah, I mean, you have had to listen to a lot of opinions about Arsenal, I'm sure, over the last number of years. So now that you hold the championship trophy in your hands, what is your message to the haters?
Honestly, I've set aside some time today to track them down individually.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Dara O'Briain provide on Arsenal's journey?
The one that really got me there was the, if he doesn't win anything this season, he'll have to go. And that one I heard a lot. I'm going, who... Sorry, man in a bar. Why are you setting the schedule for this? And I heard a lot from people going, oh, well, he's not... So therefore...
You know, if he doesn't do it by X time, when we were beating my city, I was in a bar in Spain for that 2-1 defeat to City, and a man turned to me and gave that opinion. Jesus, I was very rude to him. I was very, why, why, who, who, why, why, who is this? Why do we have to do this?
It's just the same boring opinion, and I can't get really, really touchy with this man in the bar, but that one got very old very quickly. If you were still on Twitter, Darren, now would be a great day to go around liking tweets. Ken does that from time to time, or he used to at least.
Historic tweets.
Yeah, so you'd go back six months and just start liking tweets that people had said to you that you had eventually been proven right on. Yeah, you're right.
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Chapter 4: How did the Southampton playoff expulsion impact the league?
I mean, there is a major figure in the art theatre world who, for some reason, Man United fan kept contacting me last year to tell me how, you know, Arteta is not a winner and, you know, and we have to get rid of him. And this is when United were 13th. And you're going, really? Physician, heal thyself. This is not the time for you to be coming at me with this. But that's all I'm going to say.
I'm not going to track him down. in his office in the Abbey and telling this for beer but it is it's astonishing the casual you know and just some of the I'm so happy to have the end of Satan the bottling it meme and all that and your man the God the shot the lingering shot of him at the end of the match the bottle guy yeah yeah yeah
Yeah, and also, by the way, well done the camera who found the point where Noel Gallagher left on the 85th minute and I thought we all enjoyed that enormously as well. But just to have that stuff just not be a thing anymore is like, because it's such, I think there's such nonsense spoken about bottling or choking. I think there's also a lot of nonsense spoken about mentality.
I think we overtalk mentality because it allows everyone to speak with some, you know, feel like speaking with some authority. Oh, oh yeah, that's in their heads, in their heads.
Ultimately, does it not come down to squad size and how well coordinated they are and how well in those moments that they know where somebody's going to be for the pass to arrive, how well drilled they are, that kind of stuff.
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Chapter 5: What changes are coming with UEFA’s new Nations League format?
I understand it's an important mentality, but I think we talk about it way too much. Jacob Hawley had been good enough to front up on this podcast after it was when Arsenal had lost 3-2 to Man United earlier in the season. It's only fair that we invited him back on after the club's finest hour and it turned out he had been right in the thick of the celebrations in North London.
I had some poxy gig in a members club in Notting Hill. So I asked the promoter to push back my stage time for 20 minutes so I could watch it in a little Green King pub around the corner. Watched us win. Came out the pub screaming on the street as a few other people were. I cried backstage for five minutes. Went on and did one of the worst gigs of my life. Didn't care.
straight in the car thought I'd drive to the stadium again I didn't think there'd be that many people around I couldn't get near the stadium so I just parked the car at my house walked up the road and Yeah, honestly, like North London last night, it looked like a dictator had been dethroned or something. Like there's people stood on cards. It was crazy.
So, yeah, I mean, I wasn't around people when it happened, but, you know, more than made up for that with a good few hours of jumping up and down and screaming and crying.
Chapter 6: Why is Carlo Ancelotti's inclusion of Neymar in the Brazil squad controversial?
It was amazing. Yeah, a dictator wasn't being overthrown.
A dictator was being canonised. That's it.
As exciting as if anything had been given far too much leaning.
Completely rule us with an iron fist, Michael. So did you even get, were you meeting mates there or anything like that? Or was it just a case of getting in amongst the maelstrom?
Yeah, I mean, there was like three or four different groups of mates that I was meeting there. But it didn't matter. Everyone was talking to each other. Everyone was hugging. Honestly, I've never seen anything like it. And I do really believe that, especially Manchester City, and I don't want to sort of revel in them losing because it's not about them today. But I don't think they can do this.
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Chapter 7: How does the podcast reflect on the emotional experiences of fans?
I don't think they can...
make something happen like what happened last night and and it is something that i think arsenal fans should be really proud of because i think there has been this really weird narrative all season about how much we celebrate are we embarrassing and i think maybe as a fan base we need to get a bit better at not caring not caring about all the noise and the talk sport headlines and and just enjoying it
I do think when Man City won the treble, I remember the images of Jack Grealish on the bus and the homecoming.
Grealish can do it, but the City fans, they looked like they enjoyed that one. It depends how high the shot was, you can see the size of the crowd. Jacob, can you take us back to the beginning? When did you start supporting this team?
How old would I have been? Seven or eight? I grew up just outside of North London. My dad sort of pushed me into being an Arsenal fan. I think mainly because they're sort of the closest Premier League club. It was also a bit of a wind up because his father-in-law, my granddad, my mum's dad was a Spurs fan. And so I think he found it quite funny to push me towards Arsenal.
Obviously, I was 11, 12 when we won it last time when we were invincible, when we had players like Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira.
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Chapter 8: What are the upcoming events in football and hurling discussed?
And I was stupid enough, well, young enough and naive enough, I guess, to just think it was going to be like that forever. I thought we'd always have players like Thierry Henry. I thought we'd always have, you know, I thought we'd go invincible again.
And then, you know, you watch the Wenger thing kind of peter out and it's sort of sad and depressing and, you know, he's someone who gave us everything and it was almost cruel watching the way he maybe lost touch with the game a little bit and, you know, obviously the finances and the stadium, we can't compete every summer watching players that you love leave for other clubs and go on to win things.
You know, the Emery thing was mad, that was depressing and then we take that chance on Arteta and... It always felt right, the Arteta thing. And I think it's funny looking back on moments over the past few years. I remember when we lost to Brentford on the first game of the season, people saying, should he go? Is he not right?
And even, I'll be honest, even times over the last 18 months, I've kind of questioned, like, was he the guy to get us really close and then someone else might be the one who gets us over the line? And... And it's funny because Arteta's got so many of these kind of LinkedIn kind of phrases and terminologies that he uses all the time.
And I'm sure at some point he would have said something about journey or destination and enjoying the journey as much as the destination. And it's kind of funny because this season it's completely flipped. The journey's been awful this season. No one's enjoyed it.
I think it was after that United game, after I spoke to you guys last time, Arteta did a press conference of, you know, get on the boat. We're going to have some fun. We haven't had any fun.
I guess you'll probably be wanting some of Ken's thoughts on all this, won't you?
Mikel Arteta has won the title in almost exactly the same amount of time that Alex Ferguson took to do it at Manchester United. Six and a half seasons. And it's been a tough road. He hasn't actually had, especially the last couple of seasons, because Ferguson, remember, had that FA Cup and Cup Winners' Cup and League Cup and stuff leading up to finally getting over the line title-wise.
And Arteta has not won anything in the last few years. And he's just had to sort of... you know, convince everyone that this is still, you know, we're still getting there.
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