The Skeptics Guide #1093 - Jun 20 2026

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What is the purpose of The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast?

Andrea Jones-Rooy 0:01
You're listening to The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.
Steven Novella 0:10
Hello and welcome to The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe. Today is Wednesday, June 17th, 2026, and this is your host, Stephen Novella. Joining me this week are Bob Novella. Hey, everybody. Jay Novella. Hey, guys. And we have two guests, George Robb. It's June, everybody. Hey. And Andrea Jones-Roy.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 0:28
It's also June where I am.
Steven Novella 0:31
No time travel here. Thank you guys for joining us. So Evan is off this week and Cara said that it was okay if I told everybody that she's getting a colonoscopy.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 0:42
Good for her.
Steven Novella 0:43
I think she's having a camera up her butt right as we speak.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 0:47
Wow. And she didn't want to join and keep us posted on how it's going?
Steven Novella 0:50
She's actually streaming.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 0:52
She is streaming. From the colonoscopy? That's right.
Jacob Shymanski 0:54
Yeah. It's on YouTube. She specifically refused that option.
Steven Novella 0:58
Wow. Surprisingly. Very selfish, I have to say. Just forego your conscious sedation so that you can live podcast from the colonoscopy.
George Hrab 1:07
Have you all done it? Boys, have you all done it? Yeah, I just had it six months ago or something. Okay.

What personal updates do the hosts share about their health?

George Hrab 1:11
Okay, me too.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 1:13
I haven't. Am I the only one in the club? Oh, man. Or not in the club, as the case may be. I gotta go. I gotta make an appointment.
Jacob Shymanski 1:19
Yeah, I'm a little behind in my... I gotta make it happen soon.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 1:24
I'm in arrears with my doctor.
Jacob Shymanski 1:26
Arrears. I love it. Oh, sweet. I'm thinking of doing it before the big trip, LA, Sydney, New Zealand.
Steven Novella 1:34
Yeah, because you don't want to do it on the back end.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 1:36
Very good.
George Hrab 1:38
Who's being cheeky now?
Andrea Jones-Rooy 1:41
Come on. Overall, I have to say this is a great analysis.
Bob Novella 1:46
I don't know. I think it's pretty shitty.
George Hrab 1:49
Well, I can't put my finger on it, but I think it's a good analysis.
Steven Novella 1:53
Okay, good. My last one, I had a good prep and a clean colon so I can go 10 years for my next one. That's right.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:00
Is the age... It's 45, right? Yeah, I think so.

How does the discussion shift towards colonoscopies?

Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:04
Okay.
Steven Novella 2:04
Unless you have family history.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:06
Okay. Okay.
Steven Novella 2:07
Or you have symptoms. Okay. All right. Or like blood coming out there.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:12
All right. We'll do a quick exam and then we'll report back. Good. Yeah.
Steven Novella 2:16
Yeah. All right. It's nothing. Now, the thing is, I've noticed, you know, over the last 30 years of my life, getting occasional procedures is they got the conscious sedation dialed in pretty well now. Even when I was talking to the doctor for my more recent colonoscopy, this is my second one, I said, for the first one, I actually woke up in the middle of my upper GI.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:35
No way. Were you in horrible pain? What happened?
Steven Novella 2:38
Well, you're just like, what am I choking on? You're like, you have no idea what's going on, right? You're just so stupid.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:42
Are you intubated?
Steven Novella 2:42
I don't know anything about that. You're really up there. No, no, it was the upper GI. So this is, I had both. I had a colonoscopy followed by an upper GI. So the camera was in my stomach at the time.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:51
Wow.
Yeah.
Steven Novella 2:52
Yeah, not pleasant.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 2:54
Did they knock you back out or what?
Steven Novella 2:57
Oh, yeah. They just knocked me back out. But this guy said, that won't happen. We have it so much more dialed in now than we did. Wow. And you remembered waking up, though.
Jacob Shymanski 3:05
Yeah.
Steven Novella 3:05
I don't think you'd kind of forget that. No, I 100% remember it. I think that's part of what they do a lot better is they give you the memory juice so you don't remember anything. Yeah, yeah.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 3:14
Well, my mother-in-law was put under for surgery last week, unrelated to her colon, and she's convinced she had a dream during it, which I didn't think was possible.
Steven Novella 3:23
Yeah, it shouldn't be.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 3:25
Yeah. All right. I'll tell her she's making things up.
Steven Novella 3:28
But again, I don't know what exact cocktail they used or whatever.
George Hrab 3:34
I just remember when I was going out, just at the very edge of consciousness, I heard the doctor go, extraordinary.
Steven Novella 3:39
That's a false memory, George.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 3:43
Yeah, that's some kind of bias. I'm sure you guys have talked about this on the show, maybe at length, but the rising colon cancer among millennials, is that something you all have covered and I just need to catch up on my listening?
Steven Novella 3:54
We haven't covered it. I've been sort of noticing that peripherally. I haven't done a deep dive yet.
Andrea Jones-Rooy 3:58
Okay, all right.
George Hrab 3:59
Is it like lack of fiber in the diet or something?

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