The Skeptics Guide #963 - Dec 23 2023

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Who is the special guest and how did he get into skepticism?

Bruno Satin 0:00
You're listening to The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.
Dr. Steven Novella 0:10
Hello and welcome to The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe.
Dr. Steven Novella 0:20
Today is Friday, November 3rd, 2023, and this is your host, Stephen Novella. Joining me this week are Bob Novella. Hey, everybody. Tara Santamaria. Howdy.
Jay Novella 0:39
Jay Novella. Hey, guys. Evan Bernstein.
Evan Bernstein 0:44
Hello, White Plains.
Dr. Steven Novella 0:49
And we have a special guest joining us for this episode, Eli Bosnick. Eli, welcome to the show.
Bruno Satin 0:53
Hi, Eli. Hello, hello. Hello.
Dr. Steven Novella 0:57
So we are live at Nauticon. This is not a conference, but it's a conference. But it's not a conference. And so far it's going really well. This is, I think, the best part of the show. He wouldn't really know, though. I wouldn't know. Yeah. I'm told. I'm told that so far it has gone pretty well. Eli, you're a fellow podcaster. Tell us about your many, many podcasts.
Eli Bosnick 1:18
So I have a lot of podcasts, and I don't think you even know this, Steve. Skeptic's Guide to the Universe was my intro to skepticism. I was told that. Yeah, so when I was 20 years old, I was a 9-11 truther. And yeah, you're allowed to boo for that because it sucks. And that's what I thought the word skeptic meant. And my coworker, now co-host, No Illusions, was like, I was talking to him about Zeitgeist. I was like, yeah, Zeitgeist, right? And he was like, hey, I have a blog you should read about that movie you're praising. And I read your blog about Zeitgeist and got interested in the skeptical movement by listening to Skeptic's Guide to the Universe. And now I'm here and terrified. mortally terrified I do not belong up here so much so that you didn't plug your own shows which is what right god awful movies the scathing atheist dnd minus the skeptocrat and dear old dads nice whoa wow and citation needed resume we had a great show for you we're gonna there's been a discussion about whether or not we should do not a con next year and it depends on how it all goes are you guys having a good time
Dr. Steven Novella 2:32
So we've been brainstorming some topics that we might cover on next year's Not A Con when we do the show. So these are the ones that came up. Artificial intelligence, friend or foe. Yes. Yeah, that's definitely going to be next year. Arby's sandwiches, real meat or not.
Jay Novella 2:49
Ooh.
Dr. Steven Novella 2:49
I think we're going to have to do a live taste test there. Operating room horror stories. That's my favorite. New England, how the patriots cheat and get away with it. You sat there. Hello. Time out. Taking a break is the best way to recharge. That was Kara's suggestion. It was?
Cara Santa Maria 3:06
When did we have this conversation?
Evan Bernstein 3:08
Roll with it, Kara.
Dr. Steven Novella 3:09
Roll with it, Kara.
Evan Bernstein 3:10
Okay.
Dr. Steven Novella 3:12
Being autocrat or visionary. Whose was that? That'll be a lively discussion. And Bob, this is Bob's topic. Nanoseconds. Can anyone perceive time that short? No.
Cara Santa Maria 3:24
What's Brian doing in this slot?
Bob Novella 3:27
I don't know how that picture got there. We almost had a bit in this weekend called Is It Mayonnaise? We're not doing Is It Mayonnaise?
Evan Bernstein 3:39
Yeah.
Jay Novella 3:40
It was always mayonnaise.
Eli Bosnick 3:45
I played that game to get into a frat.
Bruno Satin 3:51
It wasn't mayonnaise.
Dr. Steven Novella 3:54
Gross. Gross. All right. So I love this article. This is one of those ones where you read it, the title is so techno-jargon. Anthropogenic coal ash as a contaminant in a micrometeoritic underwater search. Hmm. Sounds like who cares, right? But this is awesome. So they were examining these little microscopic spherules of metal on the ocean floor to see what they were made of. And do you guys know where I'm going with this? Yes, Avi Loeb. This was the Avi Loeb study where they said, look, these little spherules They're where we thought they were supposed to be based upon the trajectory of something that might have been an interstellar meteor. And they're made of, they're mostly iron, but it's not the same ratio.
Dr. Steven Novella 4:44
There's too much like nickel and uranium and stuff in there. So it's not volcanic. That means it's a meteor. But it's not the ratio that meteors from our solar system have. So it's probably an extrasolar meteor. And in fact, it could be an alien spaceship, right? This is Avi Loeb. Wow.
Jay Novella 5:02
That's a hell of a leap.
Dr. Steven Novella 5:02
Yeah, there's a few leaps there. So this is follow-up research by another team where they found that the constituent in those spherules that were like there was too much nickel and stuff in there matches what you would find in coal ash.

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