How do you face suffering with faith?
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How does the episode begin and what is the central question about faith and suffering?
All I can say was that in the earliest days when things were the most chaotic There was still this little voice inside of my head that I could sense simply with saying I am with you and I am within you. Е, тинка, да сенс о гад бим презен. With me and within me, even if I on a any given day I can't really feel that emotionally, I would just say that that in itself has made tremendous difference in the journey of this past year.
Welcome to the spiritual life. I'm Father Jim Martin. On this podcast we reflect on how people experience God in their prayer and in their daily lives. And I'm joined by my wonderful producer, Maggie Van Dorn. Maggie, good to be with you as always.
It's great to be with you, Jim.
And this time on the spiritual life, we have a very powerful conversation with Anne Garrito. Can you tell us a little bit about Anne and her story, Maggie?
Yeah. So Anne Garrito is an associate professor of homoletics at Aquinas Institute of Theology in St. Louis, Missouri, where she founded the school's master's program in Catechesis of the Good Shepherd, and now serves as the grant director for the Aquinas Children's Worship Project. Anne has spent more than 25 years teaching pastoral theology, homiletics, and catechetics while serving in a variety of leaderships. Roles.
Yeah, she's very well qualified. Um, before we get to the rest of her story, I want to say she's also the award winning author of several books, including Redeeming Administration. Redeeming conflict and her latest work Redeeming Power. She lives in Decatur, Georgia. Where she continues to write, speak, and serve as a catechist with children at Saint Thomas More Parish, the Jesuit parish. Maggie, you introduced me to Anne and her work, and I really like you to tell her story um before we get going. What made you want to bring her on this podcast?
Yeah. I am so excited to introduce Anne to our audience. I first came to know Anne because she was recommended to me as a dynamo preacher, and I was booking her for our preach podcast. It was last fall, and she came on and she delivered this home run reflection. But from the time that I had originally reached out to Anne to when she Recorded that episode of Preach, which was maybe just a span of a month and a half, and was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. And I thought that she might cancel the recording, but instead Anne just doubled down on it. And she gave, like I said, one of the most powerful reflections that I've ever heard on reconciliation. And Anne has continued in the past year or so to use her voice, her writing, and her life as a witness to her faith.
And I think Anne is incredible in every So much of this podcast is really about sharing inspirational people, inspirational spiritual lives with our audience. And I I can think of no one better than Anne Gerrito for this.
Yeah, I'm so glad you um introduced me to her and I found this one of the most powerful podcasts and conversations we've had. I really appreciate the fact that she's able to speak about her terminal illness and death, right? And and what she hopes for in a very direct way, right? Um and I think that's a quality that a lot of people who face these difficult illnesses have, right? I mean they not everybody, but they have to kind of look it squarely in the eye. And you know, at some point we will all deal with sickness and frailty. Whether, you know, our own, right, as we age or if, you know, something Um is diagnosed, um or others. You know, my mom just died um a couple of months ago and I'm very familiar with that journey.
And it's something we're all gonna face, right? And I thought it was really wonderful to be able to speak to someone. Who's walking this journey of illness and treatment and suffering and faith with her eyes wide open, with great courage, and also real good cheer, you know? I mean she's You know, she's not this sort of mm cockeyed optimist, but she really faces it with a lot of hope and I I just found her What am I trying to say? Her honesty, um, really, really powerful.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How does the episode begin and what is the central question about faith and suffering?
0:03–7:43
2
What early experiences shaped Ann Garrido’s vocation in teaching, preaching, and ministry?
7:43–11:05
3
How did Ann’s time in Africa raise hard theological questions for her?
11:05–17:44
4
What was the moment Ann was diagnosed with aggressive glioblastoma and how did she respond?
17:44–22:08
5
How does Ann notice God’s presence and “offer up” her suffering as prayer?
22:08–30:42
6
In what ways does God “woo” Ann each day through the Ignatian examen prayer?
30:42–41:08
7
What insights does the conversation provide about what we can know of heaven?
41:08–50:33
8
How can we maintain a joyful friendship with Jesus when life feels hard, according to the audience question?
50:33–1:07:45