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The Steve Dangle Podcast

LEAFS WIN! | May 5, 2026

06 May 2026

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Chapter 1: How could the Draft Lottery go for the Leafs?

7.034 - 33.784 Jesse Blake

podcasts with your host steve dangle adam wilde and jesse blake what a day what a day what a day and by the way the end of this podcast is gonna be really interesting if you're watching listening to it recorded because it will be live but we call it live to tape in the business well all of our podcasts are technically live kind of tape to us yes yes yeah yeah and to maddie and maddie maddie all the podcasts are live to you yeah isn't that don't you feel special i feel so special

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33.764 - 36.929 Steve Dangle

You are. You're the mad duck. Thank you. Mad duck.

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Quack, quack.

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37.991 - 44.501 Jesse Blake

I do want to say... Yeah, the last 30 minutes of this podcast are our live show that happened during the draft lottery.

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That's right. And that's what's happening tonight. We're very excited about that. So what's going to be great about this for you, hopefully, listening, we're trying to create an experience where we're all hopeful and happy right now. And then we'll see what happens. Listen, this... Weirdly enough, and again, we're going to get to the playoffs and stuff.

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I saw a lot of people commenting on yesterday's episode being like, well, you didn't even talk about as if there was anything else to talk about in the hockey world yesterday. Give me a freaking break. Yeah, we'll talk about your series, but come on.

71.926 - 75.349 Adam Wylde

Nearly 100 minute show. And we're doing another show today. Yeah.

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And you're getting your playoffs today. So I'm not going to spend a ton of time on the Leafs right now. We got that later on in the show, right? But boys, this John Chayka said it and he's right. This could make their job a whole lot easier. Oh, my God. A whole lot easier. So my question to you is, all I want to know, you get into the top five.

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Are you drafting best player or are you drafting position because the Leafs need defense so fucking badly?

Chapter 2: What insights are shared about the Leafs' draft strategy?

124.495 - 130.702 Adam Wylde

Here's the thing. They actually can't pick all around, right? It's, I believe, the first pick.

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131.443 - 132.464 Jesse Blake

Second pick, third pick, fifth pick.

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132.484 - 134.086 Adam Wylde

Second pick. No, they can't have third.

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134.646 - 138.39 Jesse Blake

Yeah, they have a 0.8% chance of picking third.

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138.41 - 140.613 Adam Wylde

Oh, okay, so virtually can't have third.

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But fourth pick, they can't have.

142.775 - 158.353 Adam Wylde

Can't have. I think I have that right. Yeah, there's a graphic that was going around. The actually most likely scenario is they lose the pick. The far more likely scenario is they lose the pick. Michael Amato.

158.393 - 176.597 Jesse Blake

I did have that right. 0.3%. They can pick third. 0%. They can pick fourth. 24.5%. They could pick fifth. 8.6%. Second, 8.5% first. And I believe isn't sixth like 45%? Yeah, the rest of the percent is sixth.

176.577 - 186.262 Adam Wylde

Yeah, there's a reason this adds up to like, I don't know, 40 or something. Just off the top of my head, it's not great. That's where they are right now.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Leafs' draft position?

237.278 - 238.68 Unknown

Okay. If you top 10 protected.

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238.98 - 270.94 Adam Wylde

So here's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Adam, if you top 10 protected, that would have been great. But if you give up the pick, you are very likely giving up one of the names I just said. Caleb Malhotra would be devastating. That kid's crazy. And I'm just thinking of who could drop. I think it's going to be chaotic. The draft it sort of reminds me of is 2008. Because 2008 at the top was Stamkos.

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271.24 - 297.351 Adam Wylde

Stamkos was going first. But then after that, it's like four, five, six straight defensemen. It's Doughty. And then after Doughty, there was some Doughty. Bogosian, I think, went three. Alex Petrangelo went four. Poor Atlanta. Poor Atlanta. Luke Shen went five. I don't remember who went six. That might have been Nikita Filatov.

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298.833 - 306.484 Adam Wylde

This draft, I think, is shaping up to be somewhat like that, where it could be something like forward, forward, D, D, D, D, D. Yep.

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307.392 - 307.833 Unknown

Yeah.

307.853 - 330.162 Adam Wylde

Malhotra. I don't know where he slots in, in all that. Who knows? He could go. Imagine he goes third. He could break it up. He could maybe all the D go first. Who frigging knows? Yep. McKenna is McKenna is one of the most fascinating prospects in a long time, just in terms of his story. He was a WHL. Mama murderer.

331.004 - 360.603 Adam Wylde

Uh, I'm pretty confident if he stayed in the WHL the whole time, he'd be the number one consensus without question. First overall pick the way he mashed that league as a 16 year old in his draft year. It would have been ridiculous. He almost, like Matthews leaving for Switzerland, he almost had to leave for the NIL just to get another experience.

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And I'm sure the money was nice. And if you remember, when Matthews left, it did open the door for Patrick Laine, who had a great world junior. And there was a slight debate going into that about, hey, maybe the Leafs, there's two generational goal scorers here. Maybe they ought to take Laine. Laine wasn't even like the consensus number one fin.

377.879 - 397.545 Adam Wylde

They were talking about Jesse Pouliarvi. That's right, Pouliarvi. Because he was great too. Yeah. And, you know, stuff happens, obviously. Hips. They don't lie. The Oilers didn't do very right by him. But with McKenna, there's also, oh yeah, he was like... Oh, yeah.

Chapter 4: How do the Leafs compare to other teams in the playoffs?

405.274 - 408.218 Adam Wylde

The story that's largely out there. I'm like, OK, I get it. Yeah.

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408.238 - 424.677 Unknown

But yeah. So, Jesse, do you have a gut feel? Yes. I'd like to go. Oh, yes. Hey, yes. Yes. Blakey Arby. Thank you. Tell me how you feel and that I just want to get this what I want to do. Drift off the top and then I want to get to the playoffs.

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424.927 - 449.549 Jesse Blake

There's a number of things at play that make me feel a couple different ways. Okay. One, in retrospect, when you look at how we got to this place, I think the Leafs did the right thing initially by going for it. Because I would have loved, if you're going to miss the playoffs, that this pick is handed over to Boston in the teens area. Mm-hmm. That's a decent scenario.

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449.849 - 474.18 Jesse Blake

Because then you get clarity on your draft pick moving forward. That's what I argued for throughout a lot of the season. And then once the season went completely haywire and you realize that you were one of the worst teams in the league, it's then unforgivable that you didn't commit to losing. And you tried to still chase that spot that I would have loved in the 12th area, in the 13th area.

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474.22 - 490.303 Jesse Blake

You still chase that even though your roster wasn't good enough. And it is unforgivable that one more regulation loss would have guaranteed you kept your pick this year. If you had committed to losing more games, you would have had 76 points instead of 78.

490.803 - 499.416 Jesse Blake

And that 76 points would have dropped you to the bottom three, which have guaranteed a top five pick, which would have guaranteed your first round draft pick. So I entered tonight with anger.

499.396 - 515.291 Jesse Blake

But I also entered tonight with hope because at the end of tonight, we can have a scenario where the Leafs have a top five draft pick and they get somebody like Verhoff and you're like, oh my gosh, a puck moving defenseman. That's going to change. That's going to change the team for next year because they have to be chasing a playoff spot for next year.

515.612 - 538.733 Jesse Blake

Now that you know your next two first round picks are are going to Boston and Philly, which is a scary scenario. So on top of that, I'm scared of the future because do you trust John Chayka to run this team chasing for the playoffs, not having first round picks that they own and control that are their own? I think I will give John Chayka my trust until he loses it. How's that?

538.793 - 556.081 Jesse Blake

So those are my three things I'm thinking about. I'm open. That's what that's called being open to it. Right? Being open to it. Now, those are my three different feelings on it. There's a little bit of hope for the future on how this thing can play out. I'm angry at how they did it. And I'm not trusting John Chayka running this team.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Leafs winning the draft lottery?

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They might be. They might be onto something. Five o'clock and onward, I'm a dumbass.

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3088.746 - 3095.895 Jesse Blake

You can't need your full brain capacity for a six-year-old. Oh. Jesse. You can't. Jesse.

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3096.255 - 3099.82 Adam Wylde

There is not enough room between you and I for you to say that to me.

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3099.8 - 3109.042 Unknown

What does Leo know? Sweet summer child. Oh, man. You know what? I can't. If you're ever a dad, first off, I'm a dog dad.

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Chapter 6: How does the draft lottery affect the future of the Leafs?

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You are a dog dad. But if you're a human dad. I can't wait. Can you not wait? Because I can't wait. I can't wait. First off, we're going to be the best two uncles ever. Second, there's going to be some apologies, I think, especially for that comment.

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3124.002 - 3131.99 Adam Wylde

I still have stuff because when Leo was born, Jesse had this bit where he's like, I'm going to buy the biggest, loudest, dumbest toy I can find. Both of us, yeah.

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3132.271 - 3138.297 Jesse Blake

I like gifts. I like giving gifts to children. Great gift, uncle. If I grow up, I want to be Santa Claus.

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3138.357 - 3140.32 Adam Wylde

Yes.

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Chapter 7: What are the reactions to the draft lottery results?

3140.34 - 3140.64 Adam Wylde

Oh, you're not?

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3141.532 - 3145.519 Jesse Blake

I thought you wanted to be Jesse Buiarvi. Yeah, that too. Okay. Well, multiple lives.

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3145.559 - 3149.887 Adam Wylde

According to the Tim Allen film, all you have to do is kill him. Yeah.

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3149.907 - 3163.211 Unknown

And then you become Santa. So, McCarr gets hit here. He falls. Oh, right. He falls on his hip. He goes in the outfield. And I was like, oh, that can't be that bad. No, he goes to the dressing room, misses most of the first period.

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Chapter 8: What does this mean for the upcoming NHL season?

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He is back at the end of the first period.

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3166.27 - 3167.672 Jesse Blake

I think he got a bruise.

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3168.553 - 3183.31 Unknown

Well, they showed during the broadcast, they gave him cream to numb his hip. It's got to be a bruise. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But it was an unbelievable game from him after that.

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3183.33 - 3189.357 Adam Wylde

That's the thing. Dude, Marcus Foligno almost gets like frigging Liu Kang kicked in the head.

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3189.577 - 3189.797 Unknown

Yeah.

3190.138 - 3213.121 Adam Wylde

It's crazy. Look at that. Mortal Kombat. It was. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's so scary. Yeah. Could have been worse. I can't believe. How did Makar get into that position and then continue to play professional sports? Yeah. Like, I mean, ever again, let alone that night. Holy shit. Professional athletes are incredible.

3213.621 - 3222.444 Unknown

I guess that's why we watch. By the way, Makar had two goals and assist after that. So stupid. Devante's had four points. That guy doesn't put up points.

3222.545 - 3225.935 Jesse Blake

No. Wasn't Kadri like minus four before he scored that goal?

3225.955 - 3226.176 Adam Wylde

Yes.

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