Who is the real Michael Wolff? Tara joins Lev Parnas and investigative journalist Ellie Leonard to pull back the curtain on the man who calls himself the "Epstein whisperer." Wolff raised nearly $1 million through GoFundMe claiming he'd depose Melania Trump — but the anti-SLAPP lawsuit he filed can't actually lead to depositions. They also break down Michael Cohen's shifting story about the Katie Johnson case and why both men are now attacking the independent journalists actually doing the work. 00:00 – Intro: Who is the real Michael Wolff? 0:46 – Michael Cohen and Wolff team up to call Tara and Ellie "conspiracy theorists" 2:02 – Tara: "I've never been called a conspiracy theorist in 18 years of journalism" 2:42 – Wolff, Cohen, and the podcast where they attacked independent journalists 3:10 – The bid to buy New York magazine with Epstein AND Harvey Weinstein — documented 5:07 – Cohen and Wolff playing clip: they call Tara and Ellie "far-left activists" 7:13 – Michael Cohen's collapsing Katie Johnson story — private investigators, contradicting lawyers 10:19 – Wolff is sitting on Epstein tapes and shopping them to the highest bidder 13:57 – The GoFundMe anti-SLAPP lawsuit explained: it can't actually lead to depositions 16:02 – Wolff says he has Epstein on tape — so why not just release it? 18:28 – He's thinking about the perpetrators staying quiet, not the survivors speaking up 23:23 – He made $13 million on his book — why does he need a GoFundMe? 29:31 – Wolff tried to discredit Julie K. Brown, Tina Brown, Ronan Farrow — now it's us 33:07 – "I'm not getting out of the way" — Ellie on continuing the work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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