Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hi everyone and welcome back to the Talk Tracks. In today's episode of the Talk Tracks, we're taking a deeper look into signs from the other side.
Chapter 2: What are signs from the other side?
What are they? Can anyone ask for them? Do they even exist? And making meaning and purpose out of grief with Carla Kaufman Sloan. And just a sensitivity warning, though Carla's story is uplifting, this episode contains a discussion of untimely loss of a child.
Chapter 3: Can anyone ask for signs from loved ones?
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We have a very special guest today, Carla Kaufman Sloan. And I first learned about you in reading Laurel and Jackson's book, Signs. And to those who have never, you know, heard your name, who are you? And maybe explain kind of your journey and what, you know, what you're doing here today.
Okay. I grew up in New Orleans. I moved in New York. I wanted to follow the entertainment industry I loved. movies and TV, and I became a writer for television. And then I also worked for Judge Judy, which is a very fun job. And then I met my husband in Los Angeles. But we were older, we were like in our mid 30s.
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Chapter 4: How does Carla's story of loss begin?
He kind of kept it to himself until he came home one day. And I was, you know, I was like a zombie, like walking around, crying, doing the dishes, whatever. And he looked at me and he said, I have something to tell you in a very, like, I've got a secret kind of thing. And I thought, whatever. Like, I can handle anything at this point. What is it that you want to tell me?
And he said he had had a reading with this medium. And he asked me if I wanted to hear it. And I said, of course. And so he played the reading for me from his computer. And we were both
riveted for 45 minutes we couldn't stop listening to it we didn't talk to each other we didn't breathe and it it's just what everyone says when you get a really good reading he was giving us information no one could have known what type of things was he saying well he told us that um
It was interesting because it was almost like he was playing with Calder because Calder, this was only three months after Calder passed, so he was... probably still in his kid body, still like being super like, he was really fun. He always had this fun energy. He was talking about like, he's flying around here and he's making me feel like he's in an airplane.
And then he's making me feel like, and he was just laughing. Like the medium was like, he's really fun energy. And then he started saying, he's telling me something about Edison, like, he was trying to figure out what... He's telling me about my friend who works for Edison, the electrical company. But then he said... oh, he's telling me he was electrocuted outside in your swimming pool.
Like it was so accurate and there was no way he could have known that. And just the way he came to it was so interesting and strange. And then he would just keep saying things. And the coolest thing about the reading is you hear my husband go from completely oblivious to asking questions and AJ saying,
yeah you can you can ask him whatever you want you don't need me you can talk to him in your head and by the end of the reading my husband was just like this is so cool that you can communicate with him and so was I but he said at the end he's so sweet my husband at the end of the reading he goes would you do this for my wife she could really I think it would really help her and uh
AJ, I think like any medium was like, well, why don't you play it for your wife and she'll see if she wants something like this. Because as a medium, I don't think they ever want to approach someone and be like, you know, because it feels – it creates doubt. If you're like, let me give you a reading. And I was really like – took it as a challenge.
Like, oh, he's not going to give me a reading. Well, I'm going to find him. And I did find him. And he was giving a mediumship conference with one other medium, four mediums in Virginia. And I signed up with a fake name and decided I was going to go there and find him and see if this was really real.
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Chapter 5: How did Carla's beliefs about the afterlife change?
And, you know, we wanted Caleb to have fun. And so... We go to bed that night and Chris is like, I can hear this commercial for a bar called the No Name Pub. And Chris goes, oh, I've never been there. And then we go to sleep and we're driving home the next day and he decides he wants to stop at the No Name Pub because he has to see everything. He's very interested in every single thing.
And it turns out you can put dollar bills on the ceiling with someone's name on them. So he wanted to put Calder's name on a dollar bill on the ceiling. But he didn't tell me any of this. He's just like, we're going to stop here. Caleb, again, is in the back in the sleep. I'm asleep. And I was waiting in the car for him just kind of like. In the parking lot of the pub.
Yeah, in the parking lot of the pub. Like, okay, this is a nice wrap up to the weekend here. And across the parking lot, I see the bushes kind of move. And out of the bushes came a little deer. And key deer are smaller than regular deer. They're these cute little deer. And it's walking towards me. And I thought, oh, it's happening. This is the moment that Laura was talking about.
And I got very nervous that I was going to scare the deer. So I'm like trying to get out of the car. And then it just kept walking towards me and walking towards me. And I walked over to where the benches were closer to the door. And the deer walked right up to me. And it put its nose in my hand. And as it was doing that...
Chris walked out of the No Name Pub and he took a photograph of the deer putting its nose in my hand. And we couldn't believe it. We both just stood there. He's like, what is happening right now? And I thought, this is what she said was going to happen. It's happening.
And the deer didn't even run away when Chris came outside?
Nope. It kind of just hung out there for a while and then... And let you touch it. Yes, which is so interesting because wild animals, you never know how they're going to react. But it just, it was very docile and just hung out with us for a while. And then it kind of wandered on, probably looking for food or something. And we got in the car and... And he goes, did that just happen?
And I said, I think you got a picture of it happening. And he did. And he sent me the picture. And I immediately texted Laura. And she was like, wow, that's incredible. He really got you your sign. And I said, yes, he did.
What have you learned about signs since then? Because that is such an incredible sign story. But for people, like, can you ask for them from anyone? Do they have to be specific? What are the easiest kind to give? You know, what have you learned about signs?
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Chapter 6: What was the turning point in Carla's grief journey?
And I thought, okay, I want to put a book out there that lets anyone who's in grief know that their loved ones are with them and they're going to make it through and they're going to have some amazing life still. So they shouldn't just be sad all the time. Yeah. But the reason I titled it Everywhere was because of what I was telling you with Calder.
He was so adamant about making sure I knew he was with me. And it wasn't just me. Because when a child dies, especially, it's like an atomic bomb. It, like, affects everything. Not just everyone in your family. It affects the whole community, the kids in his class, friends from afar. Like, there was one kid in his class who just couldn't go to school anymore. He just couldn't.
They're little seven-year-olds. He couldn't understand what had happened. And so he just started to go in on himself. And I didn't know that at the time, but one of my closest friends called me and told me the story, and she said he went to school today because last night he had a dream. The Calder came over, and they were playing on the trampoline like they played every day.
And Calder said, it's okay. I'm good. Like, look, we're still playing. So it's like they're working overtime to make sure everyone's okay because they don't want – their death to cause problems.
So it's really your journey through grief. Yes. And, I mean, not recovery, but just able to kind of thrive in a different way in the world.
Yeah, so it is. It's about, like, how deep the grief can go and how you are still meant to live a full life. And if you can... Whatever you find your purpose to be. Like, I really do believe that now my purpose is to help other grieving parents or anyone in grief.
Like, when my friend's father died last year, I really feel like all these conversations we've had since Calder died actually helped her be able to
understand that and feel like I'm looking for him and he's sending me signs and she can feel his presence also like she says I'm driving around I know he's in the car with me because he was always telling me how to drive and I just feel it's so comforting and true.
What would you say are the things that people on the other side most want people to know and maybe patterns of things that come up all the time? Like what are – if you could like leave the audience with wisdom, what would you tell them?
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