Jon and Alex with Alex and Jon: Wednesday, December 10th, 2025
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morning girlies it's the toast it's jackson claude and we're your hosts it's your favorite show the fast five things you need to know we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast i sound amazing Welcome back to The Toast. I'm so excited about my co-host today. In a very informal capacity, they are Ruby's godparents. It's Alex and John. I would be actually honored. You know, we don't do that because we're Jewish. It's like not a thing. In a way, I feel like I got pregnant at the exact time that I did because of you guys.
OK, well, it goes full circle because we had a loss. And then I was like, John and I did not know when we wanted to try again. I'm working out, listening to the toast. And I'm like, are you kidding me, John? Let's get it. Let's get it on. Because I couldn't believe it. I know. And you truly influenced me. You influenced me? Yeah. No, I have chills. Sorry, John.
This is so cute.
Yeah.
Okay. So for anyone who's new here, I found you guys on TikTok. You have been married for how many years? Six. I should have let John answer. We'll see if you got it wrong.
Five or six.
No, he doesn't. Yeah. You've been married for a little while. Yeah. And you started making content when on TikTok?
It's 2020.
I have to remember to let John answer some questions.
We just started. You're fine.
You're doing great.
You're doing great.
I almost got you off there too.
okay you guys are very she's like i got this don't worry about this okay so yeah 2020 covid and a lot of your shtick and how i found you first was like funny married stuff and you guys reminded me a lot of me and ben because like you are very organized timely quick you seem like a little bit of like a slower mover wow this is the fucking opposite i don't know what homework you were looking at
know but we when we create our content we do like pretty much stereotypical like husband wife and like so again when even when it comes to in the bedroom like i actually have a higher sex drive than john does and so but i know that like generally men do so like we'll still stick to the the sort of traditional it's the chase you know you know alex is just when she's attacking at all times okay moving on
So I saw your guys' marriage content, which was just funny, married life stuff. I found it so relatable. I felt so seen. So much of the stuff that you guys were... And your quality of content is really... Thank you. The editing. I mean, chuckle. And then when you guys got pregnant, I was like, oh, shit. Now I have to get pregnant. Because I feel like we've been on very similar life trajectories. You were married for a while before you decided to try. Yeah. And you... Like really identified as dinks, correct?
Yeah.
Dual income, no kids, which was so amazing. Yeah.
A disclaimer to that, though. Everyone thought that we always were like anti-having kids. Correct. We never said that. Yeah. We just leaned into dink content. Yeah.
Because we were like, we don't know. And like, we're having so much fun as dual income, no kids.
How did Alex and John transition from DINKs to parents?
Like, why would we not create content about how much like our parents want us to have kids? Yeah.
Uh-huh. And I did want to talk to you guys about like the really sort of mentally ill response of some people when you announced your first pregnancy being like, I thought my favorite like no kid. Like, first of all, you never said that. Correct. And second of all, like what a weird way. That's like the weird parasocial relationship. And the very odd part of this job is like people having such strong reactions like you guys just living your life.
And the fact that it hurt their feelings and they felt like that. I can't think of one person on the Internet, whether it's a celebrity or a social media creator, that a decision in their life, a personal decision in their life would impact me to the point that I'm like, I need to comment on this and I need to make content about this.
And I'm very chronically online.
I have a lot of parasocial relationships, but I'm still very sound of mind.
Right.
Did that even upset you, though? Like, I couldn't even take it seriously.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:04–3:03
2
How did Alex and John transition from DINKs to parents?
3:03–8:24
3
What challenges did they face during their pregnancy journey?
8:24–14:31
4
How has their content changed since becoming parents?
14:31–45:17
5
What challenges do content creators face in their collaborations?
45:17–45:47
6
How does Jen Shah's release from jail relate to celebrity accountability?
45:47–46:01
7
What are the implications of celebrity relationships on public perception?
46:01–46:23
8
How do parenting choices affect children's experiences in sports?
46:23–1:24:19
Speakers
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