Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
morning girlies it's the toast it's jackson claude and we're your hosts it's your favorite show the fast five things you need to know we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast i sound amazing Welcome back to The Toast. I'm so excited about my co-host today. In a very informal capacity, they are Ruby's godparents. It's Alex and John. I would be actually honored.
You know, we don't do that because we're Jewish. It's like not a thing. In a way, I feel like I got pregnant at the exact time that I did because of you guys.
OK, well, it goes full circle because we had a loss. And then I was like, John and I did not know when we wanted to try again. I'm working out, listening to the toast. And I'm like, are you kidding me, John? Let's get it. Let's get it on. Because I couldn't believe it. I know. And you truly influenced me. You influenced me? Yeah. No, I have chills. Sorry, John.
This is so cute.
Yeah.
Okay. So for anyone who's new here, I found you guys on TikTok. You have been married for how many years? Six. I should have let John answer. We'll see if you got it wrong.
Five or six.
No, he doesn't. Yeah. You've been married for a little while. Yeah. And you started making content when on TikTok?
It's 2020.
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Chapter 2: How did Alex and John transition from DINKs to parents?
Like, why would we not create content about how much like our parents want us to have kids? Yeah.
Uh-huh. And I did want to talk to you guys about like the really sort of mentally ill response of some people when you announced your first pregnancy being like, I thought my favorite like no kid. Like, first of all, you never said that. Correct. And second of all, like what a weird way. That's like the weird parasocial relationship.
And the very odd part of this job is like people having such strong reactions like you guys just living your life.
And the fact that it hurt their feelings and they felt like that. I can't think of one person on the Internet, whether it's a celebrity or a social media creator, that a decision in their life, a personal decision in their life would impact me to the point that I'm like, I need to comment on this and I need to make content about this.
And I'm very chronically online.
I have a lot of parasocial relationships, but I'm still very sound of mind.
Right.
Did that even upset you, though? Like, I couldn't even take it seriously. Seriously. Is this a real thing?
No, that makes me feel good. We have, through the years, thankfully, I feel like because when we announced and decided to start our family, we had been doing social media for a while. And so we have grown a thick skin over the years. But you have to have a thick skin. Like, we were able to, like, look at that and laugh. And I was just like, you people are fucking weird. Right.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did they face during their pregnancy journey?
So we waited six months. I waited until I found out that you were pregnant. And then I was like, now it's now it's time. So it was December. We tried found out that we were pregnant in January. And then I was very disconnected because I just like I built up this wall. I did not want to feel anything. I didn't want to get emotionally connected to just get hurt again.
But I will say towards the once I got past the gestation that I lost Leo, I did feel a little bit more like relief. Like, OK, like I feel like I could connect a little bit more. I don't know that I will say I felt fully better until she was here. And I was like, oh, my God, like, of course, it did heal something inside.
We didn't celebrate anything. We didn't want to pay nothing.
When did you guys announce? 28 weeks or like 30 weeks.
So you really waited. Yeah. Did you like keeping it to yourself for a while or were you dying to tell people?
I think it made the time go fast.
It made it go so fast. Oh, really? The hardest part, it was so nice keeping it to ourselves until I was showing. Of course. And people were like, oh my God.
And I was like, please don't say anything. Did you guys... Feel the love. Like, of course, when anyone announces a pregnancy, it's all like, congrats, congrats. Yeah. I feel like the Internet was like not well. I wasn't. I was so fucking excited for you guys.
Yeah. Did you feel that? I felt like such a warm hug. Really? Like, I just felt like we were being embraced and I felt it through our phone. Like, truly, just even just because of the people in our lives, they were so supportive. And it was it was such like a delicate time. Yeah. Now, can we talk about Lucy?
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Chapter 4: How has their content changed since becoming parents?
You have to wake the baby up.
like no so i agree but there are like i there are good babies and there are hard me yeah do you have a hard baby or a good no she's really middle of the road no with sleep and i don't with sleep but like throughout the day she's the chillest the happiest like all she wants is a boob like and who am i yeah and who am i to deny her my boobs of And what is your journey with breastfeeding been like?
OK, I feel like because we went through such a horrible loss and trauma, like everything has truly just been so like so easy. I feel like we've been very blessed. God is taking care of you. Yeah, because she came out, she latched like no pain. And so I just feel no pain. I mean, a little bit, but I was like, she's biting your nipple.
Yeah, but like nothing that I thought like I was expecting my nipples to bleed them to crack and to fall off. Like it really hasn't been bad. Oh, the cracking is very real. Yeah, but I don't know. She's just been really great. And you're doing exclusive boob. Yes. I mean, I'm pumping when, like, I have my mom watch her, like, right now. You know, she's awful. Play mom. Thank you.
Yeah, thanks, mom, for being there. But other than that, yeah, I think really just our problem has been with sleep. Like, she likes to wake up.
Also with that, we don't have to go on, like, such polar opposite ends of, like, you're letting them cry for two hours. Like, we do a little, like, a little crying so she could salt soothe herself back to sleep.
I think that's, like, a good...
general like parent thing like middle I'm like middle of the road on everything I very rarely have like super strong feelings about one way or another like I'm currently contemplating ending my journey with breastfeeding yeah but you've you're how many months he's almost seven months yeah see that like I'm split between being like this is the best thing for him and me
formula like I need to get skinny like I've had enough um and I just try not to like think in extremes even though I'm like such an extreme person I do feel like motherhood has changed me in the sense and maybe my husband degree I'm so chill yeah I'm so chill now have to be have to be yeah even though like Ben caught me on the way here to like tell me something so dumb and he picks up the phone he's like Claude and I'm like oh my god what happened
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Chapter 5: What challenges do content creators face in their collaborations?
When we actually have a fight, it's when something new happens and we're trying to figure that out. It's like, We first started the company when first moving to L.A., first having Lucy, like navigating new waters, figuring out job role, like who's doing what. And but after that, it's really nothing.
But I feel like we banter about something every day. But like maybe someone would think it's a fight. Like people talk on our podcast and they're like or comment or even like in our videos that are skits. And they're like, do you guys hate each other? Or like, do you guys fight all the time? Why are you yelling at each other?
Chapter 6: How does Jen Shah's release from jail relate to celebrity accountability?
I'm like.
Would you listen to the podcast if we weren't debating or arguing? Like, it'd be so boring.
If we were just agreeing with one another. Yeah. Totally. I get that a lot. When Ben and I podcast together, it used to bother me a lot in the beginning. People being like, Claudia, you're so mean. I'm like, bitch, you tried being married.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of celebrity relationships on public perception?
It's so annoying. And so I see how, like, but then also I do see sometimes people who, like, fight on their podcast who literally should not be married.
Yeah. But you can, like, you can feel the energy of, like, people who actually hate each other and people who, like, love each other.
I don't know. Maybe it's just, like, a love language thing. Like, a personality thing. Like, sorry, I'm going to poke fun at people I love. Like, sorry. Yeah, exactly.
Chapter 8: How do parenting choices affect children's experiences in sports?
Fighting with a level of respect, too. Like, you're not, like, loathing each other. Mm-hmm. Okay.
Yes. Yes, that's true. That's true. Okay, huge news. Jen Chaz has been released from prison. She ended up serving 33 months for her telemarketing fraud scheme where she... attacked vulnerable communities, both the disabled and the elderly, stole all of their life savings. Some of them went on to kill themselves. And here she is just spending a cool 33 months in prison.
It was very... It kept getting decreased. So she ended up spending two years, nine months, and 23 days in prison. And I do believe her original sentencing was around like six to eight years. So she made off... Pretty well. Yeah. That was quick.
How much money did she take?
Well, I don't know what the total sum was, but she would like, you know how you get like those fraud telemarketing schemes? Like she was literally running a huge one. Okay. So speaking of. Did you get Duke?
John is the perfect candidate. Oh, you're vulnerable. Oh, yes. A hundred percent. Like Jen would love him. Yeah. Jen and John. John and Jen.
We get a discount on our internet if I pay with gift cards.
And I go, hang up the phone. And he's like, Alex, not everything is a scam. And I go, you know what?
We were trying to buy our house in New York. And that scam hit my credit, fucked my credit up. And then I couldn't.
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