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The Tony Kornheiser Show

“Son of Gary Braun”

15 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What tournament did Tony play in over the weekend?

0.031 - 18.278 Tony Kornheiser

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we will talk with Michael Wilbon about the Knicks winning their first title in over 50 years. We'll also talk to Spike Braun, who's covering the World Cup for USA Today. Let me say that again. Who's covering the World Cup for USA Today? But first, commerce.

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Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show.

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22.407 - 40.928 Tony Kornheiser

When you look at Knicks games on TV every once in a while, when you look at this series and you see all the celebrities around the court, do you ever think, well, I'd like to meet that guy or I'd like to meet this guy? And do you ever think, boy, I couldn't even get in the front three rows. They'd put me in like eight or nine or ten.

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Chapter 2: What updates does Tony provide about the Nats and their recent games?

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I'm not as big as these guys. Do you think that?

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I'm not even sure I can get into the 100 section, Tony. I mean, with this. The Tony Kornheiser Show is on now.

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56.153 - 76.006 Tony Kornheiser

Okay, so we have a lot to talk about. And the first thing we have to talk about is an update on the lack of power. We had no power the last show we did on Friday. So we moved out of this house. We went to Michael's house. And now we're back in this house. But rather... What? Darkness visible.

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Sorry. Can I see the emails?

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77.147 - 92.747 Tony Kornheiser

There's a great email about this. Show me that. But Sean has to be, you know, we're leaning on Sean. Sean has to be part of this because, Sean, what is it? Did something get burned out when the power went off? We're not sure.

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Nigel and I will do some testing later and determine if something got burned out or not.

100.184 - 122.39 Tony Kornheiser

But there's a possibility that it has been burned out. Oh, here's Nigelist handing me an email from Mike in Los Alamos, New Mexico. Los Alamos is where they built the bomb. Yes, in Los Alamos. You're doing the show from Michael's? Ain't you got no electricity in your house? You must feel pretty dejected, Tony. Dejected? That's funny, Mike Mount. That's very funny. I appreciate that.

122.41 - 127.599 Michael Wilbon

My favorite part was Liz just coming in from the kitchen every segment or two just to add her commentary.

Chapter 3: What does Michael Wilbon say about the Knicks' championship win?

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A lot of thoughts in the emails. It was wonderful.

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129.982 - 132.206 Michael Wilbon

So we'll see what happens. The professor.

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We'll see what happens. We have a couple of things that we have to talk about right off the top. One is the father-son tournament at Columbia. Michael and I and the baby boy Bootsy, the oldest one. Three generations. Three generations. We played, and it was so nice. I think it was Sam Neal who said it first, how great it was to see three generations like that.

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154.618 - 159.865 Michael Wilbon

So I got it from Sam and from our good friend Colin St. Maxens. They sent out the tee sheet.

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Chapter 4: How did Spike Braun cover the World Cup for USA Today?

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Colin won. In a playoff. He chipped in on 15 from 40 yards.

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Colin won.

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Colin and Tom won. And they always wore matching outfits.

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Love it. Yes, Colin Thompson-Maxim.

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But they send out the T-sheet, and both of them just text me that they're so happy that Bootsy's getting out on the course.

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Yeah, so I think that was really good. I want to thank Steve Delmar, the head pro at Columbia, for allowing that to happen, not worrying about whether or not we would hold people up. It was a very slow day, so we didn't hold anybody up. And you should explain your strategy. With Bootsy, after a tee shot, what would you do?

195.293 - 209.077 Michael Wilbon

So I think every parent who is introducing the game to their kid knows about this. First one, you want to make sure that they have clubs that they can swing because back in the day we just used old cut-down clubs. But you want to make sure they're playing appropriate tees. So a lot of courses put up family tees.

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This is a bigger tournament, so we're not necessarily putting the tees down the fairway. And I want to make him feel like he's actually playing tees.

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the course so I have him tee off with you but I make sure that I bring him to the fairway he's hitting off of a tee or I give him a good lie in the rough so I made sure that was okay with the professional shot we're all playing off of one card but you want to actually make sure the kid can play the golf course and unfortunately Columbia is an incredibly hilly course even more so when you start to play the forward tee so sometimes it's good to get out of our own little silo of where we play whether it's the backs whether it's the middle tees

Chapter 5: What insights does Nigel share about his weekend adventure?

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And I was crying on the way home when I just told him how much the game meant to me to see the two of you quietly driving away and to see the banter. I had him in the cart with me. Did he give you any tips on the trap? Yeah, I tried this. Open the club face, stack it left. Hey, he could have.

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I stink. I can't get out of the traps. What's so wonderful? So what was very nice about it, and I should say that we did not get any shop credit. We were one shot out. We finished 63 net. 62 net was the last. the last people to get shop credit. I missed a putt on the last hole, literally a birdie putt on number seven.

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It's not even that we, we both three put it apart three. Cause I think we were so focused to try and make sure we got through holes and to make sure that the little guy was protected. That sometimes it led to some quick for me, some quick bogeys.

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Yes. So Michael, at one point, had four straight birdies.

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Chapter 6: What are the highlights from the Canadian Open?

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But other than that, was consumed with his son, which is... Well, sure.

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It's also one of those things where you're like, okay, I know there's timestamps where it's like we've got to take a shade break. We've got to go reapply. It's the generational stuff that I'm sure you thought about in fleeting moments.

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But until you're there with your own kid, you're like, okay, I've got to make sure we refill the water bottle because I know it's not coming back up for another couple of holes. Yeah.

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There was no Bobby Knight sort of speech like at the back nine, be like, all right, kid, now you ought to really step up. You want that Gatorade?

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You've got to earn it. It was really lovely. I was really, you know, taken by it. I mean, I was, you know, I'm not good with children. I know that.

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But he's now old enough where he is a kid.

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Yeah.

392.692 - 399.521 Michael Wilbon

It's like you guys got to sit down. I made sure he got his lunch first. You guys had a great time. Lunch was great. Yeah, lunch was great.

Chapter 7: What questions does Tony answer from the Mailbag?

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No, no, turkey club yesterday. No, at the buffet. No, no turkey club. So we finished out of the money, but we both had a good time and we remained talking throughout all of it. Throughout all of it. And it was really nice. I got some pictures, sent them to mom. Yeah, there's... We got sort of lucky on the people ahead of us and behind us.

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Tom Jones, not that Tom Jones, and his two boys were ahead of us. And Walter and Roy and Sam Neill were behind us. So we were nestled in a good relationship.

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area there where you didn't have to worry about hitting into somebody or somebody hitting into you they were people you knew well and the power of community i got to explain to my son i'm like sam behind me i was friends with him when i was your age his dad was my baseball coach and just see the brothers interacting like that'll be you with your younger brothers in a couple years so that was us

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Nigel had an adventure beyond anything we were on a golf course we were on the ground playing golf something we do a lot why don't you tell the people what you did over the weekend

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Well, I've always had a fascination with history, as I think most people know about me. And growing up in England, we used to hear from the old timers all the time about the American bomber boys that came to fight the Germans and help win the war. So I've always had a fascination with your American bomber planes.

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And there's a commemorative air force that has restored a couple of old bombers that were built back in the 40s.

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they're built almost a hundred years ago yes one uh is a b-17 which is sort of like the main bomber of for the allies in world war ii uh that one it was called sentimental journey that one did not fly combat missions but they had a b-25 and for people who want to know what moment that is the jimmy doolittle raid where he flew off the carriers to uh to attack the japanese it's a b-25 that was his plane and the one i flew was called made in the shade and that did fly combat missions uh in italy

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You were up in the air.

Chapter 8: What reflections does Tony share about family and golf?

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There are no doors on this thing. No, that's not true. The doors. No, but yeah, I got to fly. No, you're looking out because you're running the gun. Yes. Yeah. There's a photo of me with a 50 caliber machine gun. He could fall out of the plane. No, they had plexiglass. Now, I've done this ride before on a B-24 where there were no windows. Like, you could easily fall out.

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There was very little, you know, restrictions. This, they were like, oh, you can't go through the bomb bay because you might fall out. But, yeah, there's a shot of me playing around with a dummy .50 caliber machine gun. You're up in the air. Yes. We flew around for about a half an hour. It's out in Warrington. Wonderful, right? Thrilling. It was just. Not for me. A beautiful day for it.

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Oh, it was perfect weather. Because the night before, they're like, oh, yeah, we had to cancel like half the flight. Oh, the storms. Yeah, the storms were terrible. Beautiful sunset, though. But I thought of you. Oh, it was beautiful. I thought of you in the B-25 because I had a seat where I could crawl all the way up to the nose.

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And then you're basically sitting in like a plastic bubble that's just flying over the ground. And they had these steep banking turns. Then I was like, oh, Tony would not be enjoying this at all right now. But it was wonderful. If anyone has any interest in doing the commemorative Air Force, all the money goes to help restoring the aircraft. And it's just an absolute thrill.

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And wonderful people all across that were there.

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They tried the B-52s, not the 25.

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I talked to one of the guys who was flying with me, a passenger, used to fly B-52s. So, yeah, it's just wonderful. Weren't they a rock and roll group, the B-52s?

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I was making the band comment.

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Yeah, weren't they a rock and roll group?

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